JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

Deino

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Guys BLK III is coming????

or Fake ???

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As I said !

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Deino

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Hi,

Disclose the soucre---!!!!!

Who would do that---specially in weapons world and relating to actual combat---.

People don't disclose their source pertaining to small issues and this was a mega event---.

Not sure if you did not understand my post or deliberately misquoted me?

I never demanded he should disclose his sources, I only noted - hypothetically and spoken in general - that if you do not reveal evidence aka hard facts, you can post whatever you want and then tell "I know better" ... but if this is god for credibility is another question.
 

Deino

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Let's talk about JF-17s in Anatolian Eagles 2019. How many are going and which other planes will they be matched up against?


Via "Windjammer/PDF":

The three JF-17s along with a couple of C-130s were photographed at the New Islamabad Airport this week. Possibly departing for Turkey to participate in the Anatolian Eagle 2019 Multi-National air exercise.

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MastanKhan

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Not sure if you did not understand my post or deliberately misquoted me?

I never demanded he should disclose his sources, I only noted - hypothetically and spoken in general - that if you do not reveal evidence aka hard facts, you can post whatever you want and then tell "I know better" ... but if this is god for credibility is another question.

Hi,

Then what else was meant from your post---it was very obvious.

Over the years you have always asked that question---bring the proof---where is the source---.

This is a weapons world---there is no source---but always hearsay and from hearsay deductions are made---.

Just like bring proof of JF17 sale---that is what you used to ask for years---.

Oh yeah---Nigeria and Myanmar will print it out for us because the admin at sinodef has asked for it---and won't believe it till given on a govt letter head.

Deino---did you ever offer apology to posters whom you reamed / challenged about the JF17's sales---before it became real---.
 

Mohsin77

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This is a weapons world---there is no source---but always hearsay and from hearsay deductions are made---.

Incorrect.

Do you think defense analysts base their deductions on "hearsay"? If they did, they'd get fired. No paper is published in any defense journal without proper citations and reasonably verifiable intel. Here's an example: Think of the Balakot strike by India. Analysts around the world didn't rely on "hearsay" to contradict India, they relied on satellite imagery. This is what separates amateur blogs from actual defense analysts and proper journalists.

What I want is citations to these types of sources above. "Hearsay" is useless, since any "deductions" based on it have a margin of error that is unacceptably high. So please stop demanding that "hearsay" be accepted and standards of discussion be lowered. Instead, maybe raise your own standards, please.

@siegecrossbow I know this is detracting from the thread, but i think it's for the greater good lolz. He's not gonna learn unless someone explains this stuff to him.
 
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Deino

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Hi,

Then what else was meant from your post---it was very obvious.

Over the years you have always asked that question---bring the proof---where is the source---.

This is a weapons world---there is no source---but always hearsay and from hearsay deductions are made---.

Just like bring proof of JF17 sale---that is what you used to ask for years---.

Oh yeah---Nigeria and Myanmar will print it out for us because the admin at sinodef has asked for it---and won't believe it till given on a govt letter head.

Deino---did you ever offer apology to posters whom you reamed / challenged about the JF17's sales---before it became real---.

It's indeed amazing with how little reason and logic it is argued here, how one-sided facts are twisted ... no idea if this is a cultural phenomenon, a peculiar character or lack of judgment:

On the one hand, to portray it as an attack, which I must excuse, if someone - as just above - reports a certain thing from a completely dubious source (as just above), ... and weeks later the same crap will be reported again and again and You all take it as proof since now there are two crappy sources reporting it. In each case without any reference to the source, at best with a link to a certain fan boy at Twitter or Facebook or spiced with "I know it, and no-one reveals its sources" ... and how often has already ordered such crazy reports to Azerbaijan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Turkey, etc, is close to it ... Nothing has happened so far.

At the same time, You are one of those, who more than eagerly post any rumored report - "here it is Block 3" - about Block 3, Azam, or any weapon systems, and of course these rumours should never be questioned. Doubt is not allowed, is even considered betrayal or accused of being biased. ... and how often they were faked?

I still vividly remember our last discussion in which You tried to explain how easy Pakistan could develop a single engined stealth fighter from the FC-31 by mating "simply" one WS-19 ... or as you cheered the video " JF-17 chasing a Su-30MKI "which in the end - and, more than unambiguously - were just two JF-17s. Also on this answer or even confession of your mistake, I am still waiting ...

But no matter, You have your opinion and I have mine ... and I'm sure all interested members here will make their own judgement based on how often I or You were wrong with any of our claims and how often not. I think I do not need to hide in mind of the answer.


Anyway, have a nice day.
 
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Mohsin77

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... no idea if this is a cultural phenomenon, a peculiar character or lack of judgment:

It's just general ignorance in all societies which have less higher education. It takes generations to correct. Even developed societies haven't rooted this "phenomenon" out yet. For Example:



... and now, back to our regularly scheduled programming, on the JF-17
 
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