Potential backfire from Google Ban
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It is true that some companies will move out of China faster as a result of the tariffs. But most of those companies were already going to leave China for other places like Vietnam regardless in the future because of the increasing labor costs in China. Still, unless China reacts to the tariffs it is likely the moves will indeed increase.
China can basically counter that with their own tariffs. Much like Russia did.
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Apple is made in China, how would you go slap tariff on it.
Xi is no Trump. That's too over the top, at least at this stage.
The goal of retaliation should be to strike maximum damage and have minimum side-effect or collateral damage to China and the Chinese people. China certainly has many tools on its hands, but just like a card game if you are going to deal your trump (no pun intended) card in the first round and you don't win, that could mean big trouble for you. America has more cards and stronger cards, but deals them more recklessly; China has fewer and less impactful cards, so it has to deal its cards very very carefully in order to win evetually.
This is also like a game of chess. You can't just make any move without anticipating how your opponent would react. Trump clearly made a blunder when he blacklisted Huawei as he probably didn't expect Huawei to stand against his ban, so China has to be careful not to repeat his mistake.
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Limited impact
Some industry representatives believe Arm's move will deliver a significant blow to Huawei, as the company's major self-developed chipsets and mobile devices are based on Arm architecture.
Along with Intel's X86 structure, Arm and X86 architecture are considered the lifelines of the CPU market and the core engines for smart devices.
"This is far bigger than just banning Huawei phones in the US. If tomorrow any non-US tech company becomes too powerful, the US just has to play the so-called national threat card," a veteran industry representative from the Internet of Things sector based in Shenzhen, South China's Guangdong Province, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
While US influence in the high-tech sector is omnipresent, the tech cold war has officially become a malignant competition for technology, which puts the spirit of contracts and free market competition behind politics, said Chinese analysts.
However, industry analysts predict that the impact of this cut-off will be limited as the previous contract signed between Huawei and Arm allows the former permanent access to the Arm v8 structure, so the development of new Huawei gadgets will not be affected.
"We've also received a notice that HiSilicon will launch a new Kirin chipset on May 30, which shows its operations are all normal now," Fang Jing, an industry analyst at China Merchants Securities, told the Global Times on Thursday.
According to its contracts, Huawei is not losing critical access to the Arm instruction set, which will ensure that HiSilicon, the semiconductor division of Huawei, can continue to develop on existing architecture.
Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei told a group interview on Thursday that the suspension of cooperation with Arm has "no impact" on the company, as it has gained permanent access to Arm's architecture, according to media reports.
"It's time to show how capable HiSilicon really is and test the real Chinese innovation spirit," Fang Xingdong, founder of Beijing-based technology think tank ChinaLabs, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
Limited impact
Some industry representatives believe Arm's move will deliver a significant blow to Huawei, as the company's major self-developed chipsets and mobile devices are based on Arm architecture.
Along with Intel's X86 structure, Arm and X86 architecture are considered the lifelines of the CPU market and the core engines for smart devices.
"This is far bigger than just banning Huawei phones in the US. If tomorrow any non-US tech company becomes too powerful, the US just has to play the so-called national threat card," a veteran industry representative from the Internet of Things sector based in Shenzhen, South China's Guangdong Province, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
While US influence in the high-tech sector is omnipresent, the tech cold war has officially become a malignant competition for technology, which puts the spirit of contracts and free market competition behind politics, said Chinese analysts.
However, industry analysts predict that the impact of this cut-off will be limited as the previous contract signed between Huawei and Arm allows the former permanent access to the Arm v8 structure, so the development of new Huawei gadgets will not be affected.
"We've also received a notice that HiSilicon will launch a new Kirin chipset on May 30, which shows its operations are all normal now," Fang Jing, an industry analyst at China Merchants Securities, told the Global Times on Thursday.
According to its contracts, Huawei is not losing critical access to the Arm instruction set, which will ensure that HiSilicon, the semiconductor division of Huawei, can continue to develop on existing architecture.
Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei told a group interview on Thursday that the suspension of cooperation with Arm has "no impact" on the company, as it has gained permanent access to Arm's architecture, according to media reports.
"It's time to show how capable HiSilicon really is and test the real Chinese innovation spirit," Fang Xingdong, founder of Beijing-based technology think tank ChinaLabs, told the Global Times on Wednesday.
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Microsoft said to stop accepting new orders from Huawei as it moves to comply with US restrictions
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Microsoft said to stop accepting new orders from Huawei as it moves to comply with US restrictions
- The US last week placed Huawei and its affiliates on a trade blacklist that restricted the Shenzhen-based firm from buying services and parts from US companies
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