China's SCS Strategy Thread

Hendrik_2000

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Which is this atoll flown by J-10C of the 5th briagde, based in Guilin, in May 2018? At first sight it would look like the Scarborough Reef in the South China Sea but not entirely convinced.
Dos J 10 has the range to patrol in SCS
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Beijing’s blurred lines between military and non-military shipping in South China Sea could raise risk of flashpoint
  • Increasing deployment of coastguard and fishing vessels in disputed waters risks undermining regional stability
  • China’s construction of dual-use facilities ‘muddies the waters’ and increases concern among neighbouring countries which have their own claims
Updated: 3:24pm, 5 May, 2019
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China’s steady build-up of non-military shipping in the South China Sea could increase the risk of conflict and undermine stability in the region, observers have warned.

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in which up to 275 Chinese vessels were spotted near the Philippine-occupied island of Thitu, part of the disputed Spratly chain, angered Manila and highlighted the concerns about potential flashpoints. The vessels, mostly fishing boats, are likely to have taken shelter in facilities China has built on artificial islands in the South China Sea, according to some analysts.
“The boat swarm has such endurance on station in no small part due to the proximity of the artificial islands in the area, such as Subi, which can provide ready shelter for these boats in times of inclement weather,” said Collin Koh, a research fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore.

“These boats can also retire to these facilities for rest and replenishment and then return to station off Thitu Island again – obviating the need to return to mainland fishing ports.”

While China’s military activities have been under intense scrutiny over the past years, Beijing has been steadily increasing its non-military presence in the region, which risks angering other countries with competing claims in the South China Sea.

In late March, the Guangdong Maritime Safety Administration, a civilian maritime agency under the Ministry of Transport, said it would soon start to build what it said was the country’s largest patrol vessel, weighing in at 10,200 tonnes.

The ship, expected to be launched before September 2021, could significantly improve China’s maritime law enforcement and search-and-rescue ability, according to the ministry.

Late last year the ministry said that
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had started operating on Fiery Cross Reef, Subi Reef and Mischief Reef, three of the largest islands Beijing has developed in the Spratly group.
In January, the ministry said a
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had also been built on Fiery Cross Reef to support life-saving missions.

While Beijing argues that these facilities will help ensure maritime safety, other countries remain wary – especially given the blurring in lines between military and civilian operations in China, commonly described as a “grey-zone tactic”.

Admiral John Richardson, the head of the US Navy, told the Financial Times that China was increasingly using non-military vessels, including the coastguard and maritime militia, to assert its claims in the South China Sea.

In response, he said he had warned his Chinese counterpart, Vice-Admiral Shen Jinlong, that the US would start treating these ships as if they were part of the military.

Critics say that China is “muddying the waters” because many of the facilities it has built in the area can have dual military and civilian uses.

Last year criticisms over Beijing’s militarisation of the South China Sea were heightened after satellite images showed seven military planes had landed on the runway built on Fiery Cross Reef, even though its ostensible purposes were civilian.

“Likewise, the buildings on the artificial islands that are often described as fishermen’s shelters and for other civilian purposes could also be used by troops,” Koh said.

“The various ocean observation facilities placed around [the islands], supposedly to promote hydrometeorological research and also for marine environmental monitoring, can also contribute to better military and maritime law enforcement operations in the area.”

Zhang Mingliang, an associate professor specialising in South China Sea studies at Jinan University in Guangzhou, said Beijing would continue to build up its non-naval facilities and ships to consolidate its hold on the waters, where Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also have claims.

“China’s advantages over the Southeast Asian countries in terms of non-naval forces are already obvious,” he said, adding they would be unable to play catch-up.

He suggested that Beijing should share more of the facilities with its neighbours to ease concerns from other claimant nations.

“China should not just share the information it has collected with its own government and military agencies as it has already done, but with foreign countries and even set a timeline to open the ports and berths to foreign ships and even navies in urgent cases.”

Observers agree that Beijing’s growing non-military presence in the South China Sea will further complicate China’s ongoing negotiations on a code of conduct with its Southeast Asian neighbours to reduce the risk of clashes in the area.

These talks have made little progress over the past decade, despite calls from all parties for a fast-track consultation.

“This is going to become a huge problem when it comes to the negotiations over the proposed code because of the dual-use nature of these facilities, and this will lead to differences about how best to categorise them and how they’ll be treated in the proposed code,” Koh said.

“With China continuing to build these facilities in the area, it’s more plausible to surmise that regional countries will remain wary and engage in their own countermeasures, including building up their militaries and coastguards, as well as engaging an external military presence.”
 
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Commentary: 'No Intervention' is the best choice
SourceChina Military Online
EditorHuang Panyue
Time2019-05-06 17:53:11

By Luo Yuan

Recently, the US Department of Defense (DoD) has released the 2019 China military power report, and continued to exaggerate and smear China’s military activities.

Regarding Chinese military power, the US DOD publishes a report every year, keeping rendering the “China military threat theory”. It aims to create a favorable environment for hostility and warning against China, and therefore seeks excuses for expanding its own military power.

But how could Pentagon make such a blind blame? The US military budget for fiscal year 2019 has stretched to $716 billion, in sharp comparison with China’s $176.6 billion military budget for the same period.

While China is decreasing the number of military personnel by 300,000, the US government will increase its number of military posts by 20,000 in 2018. Who is threatening whom? In essence, it is not “China threat theory”, but more like “American threat theory” and “China being threatened theory”.

The report said that China is rapidly improving its military strength and seeking to narrow the gap with the US military in multiple fields. If that’s the case, then it should be the right path. Because that means that the power to maintain world peace is growing, and the power to contain war is getting stronger. China has not been involved in a single war for the past 30 years, making it the only one among the five permanent members of the UN Security Council.

The US is particularly concerned that China is improving its anti-access/area denial(A2/AD) capabilities, as well as seeking underwater combat advantages. However, there is no such thing as “anti-access” or “area denial” in China’s military dictionary.

The similar vocabulary is “anti-aggression”. If you don’t want “denial”, then please don’t “access”. No matter where the aggressors come from, above water or underwater, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) would shut the door upon their face.

The report focused on China’s so-called “militarization” actions in the South China Sea, saying that China’s military strategy has always targeted Taiwan. Internationally, the South China Sea is known as the “South China Sea”, not the “Western American Sea”. Why does the US travel all the way to the South China Sea to show off its muscle and initiate troubles?

Furthermore, the US has not even signed the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (“UNCLOS”) . What qualifications does it have to intervene in the South China Sea issue?

Besides, since the US can station troops in Hawaii, Guam, and even other countries, what’s wrong with China’s self-defense facilities on its own islands and reefs?

As for the Taiwan question, it is China’s internal affair. China has repeatedly promised that “Chinese do not fight Chinese”. If anyone, except Chinese people, dear to occupy China’s treasured island, we must act in accordance with the Anti-Secession Law. As for the process of execution, it’s also China’s internal affair and none of the US’ business.

The report once again accused China of stealing cutting-edge technology in order to rapidly modernize the PLA. The claim is simply a joke in the era of globalization of knowledge. Compass, gunpowder, papermaking skill and typography were invented by ancient Chinese. Isn’t the US still sharing them? Does such sharing be considered stealing?

And could you still remember that China had successfully developed "Two Bombs and One Satellite", under foreign countries' strict blockade? Practice has proved that the Chinese people have sufficient wisdom and talent to create miracles that others cannot imagine.

Of course, we will never have xenophobia, and instead, we respect and are open to advanced technology and experience from other countries. But if the others refuse to provide technology to China, let alone cutting-edge technology, should China have to give up the development of aircraft carrier? The US already has 11 aircraft carriers and there is really no need to fuss over China’s first homemade aircraft carrier, which is still in trials.

(The author is Retired Major General Luo Yuan, the executive vice president and Secretary-General of the China Strategy Culture Promotion Association)
 
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Looming collapse of fisheries in the South China Sea?
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This is a weekly look at developments in the
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, where China is pitted against smaller neighbors in multiple disputes over islands, coral reefs and lagoons in waters crucial for global commerce and rich in fish and potential oil and gas reserves.

WARNING OF FISHERIES COLLAPSE

An expert with the U.S.
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has warned of a looming collapse of crucial South China Sea fisheries due to overfishing and development projects.

Greg Poling, director of CSIS’s
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, said stocks in the sea, which accounts for about 12% of the global fish catch, “now are on the verge of collapse.”

Southeast Asian communities that rely on fishing in the sea "will be devastated," Poling said in an interview with the PBS NewsHour in the U.S.

"You're talking about hundreds of thousands of people that rely on fishing or fishing related industries and millions of more that rely on the fish and other marine life for food security."

Poling said the impact will be felt more greatly by Southeast Asian countries than by China, whose moves to assert its claim to virtually the entire crucial waterway have contributed to the damage to fisheries.

All six governments that exercise overlapping claims in the area are incentivized to catch as much fish as possible at the expense of their rivals, Poling said.


Meanwhile, China’s project of building man-made islands topped with military installations has destroyed thousands of acres (hectares) of coral reefs and Chinese fishing practices, especially the gathering of giant clams, have added to the devastation, he said.

"Some of these (reefs), the ones that you've probably seen pictures of Chinese air bases going on top of, those are dead forever. A lot of the others could come back but it's going to take decades of being left alone and right now there is very little chance that they're going to be left alone," Poling said.

US SAYS ITS JETS PATROL DAILY

A top American military commander says U.S. Air Force jets patrol the South China Sea daily to foster freedom of overflight, although they're not as visible as Navy patrols in the disputed waters.

"We fly on a daily basis in and around the South China Sea and really all across the region," Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., commander of U.S. Pacific Air Forces, told a news briefing late Thursday in Manila.

American pilots have a standard reply when they receive Chinese radio inquiries, Brown said. Routine U.S. Air Force patrols are not provocative but will press on to ensure everybody can fly where international laws allow them to, he said.

"It's something that I think all nations should be able to do," Brown said. "I realize that, sometimes, you know, China does not like that fact."

China fumes over the American military presence, at sea or on air it what it sees as its own territory.

Brown visited the Philippines last week for meetings with top military officials, including the chief of staff, Gen. Benjamin Madrigal Jr., with whom he discussed the prospects of increasing multilateral training involving U.S. and Philippine air forces.

US NAVY MAINTAINING PRESENCE

A top U.S. admiral says the Navy has not increased maritime patrols in the South China Sea but is maintaining a "consistent" presence in the disputed waterway.

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson sought to reassure regional partners, some of whom have opposing claims in the waters but benefit from good relations with China on other fronts.

Richardson was addressing an international security conference in Singapore on Wednesday.

"I've done the analysis so that I can state with confidence that our level of operations, our presence there, has been consistent over the decades," Richardson said. "There's nothing that has spiked recently."

The International Maritime Security Conference was attended by representatives from 33 navies, including 16 navy chiefs. A Chinese delegate was also present.

The U.S. Navy maneuvers in the South China Sea, so-called freedom of navigation operations, "are by design non-provocative, non-escalatory. They're just challenging excessive maritime claims in a very consistent basis," Richardson told the conference.

China has built military installations on seven man-made islands in the waters. The other claimants, most notably the Philippines and Vietnam, have protested China's behavior but they also maintain good relations with Beijing.

Richardson said "routine" freedom of navigation operations will proceed with transparency, consistency and predictability.

Meanwhile, U.S. and Philippine coast guard ships conducted a joint exercise in the South China Sea.

Capt. John Driscoll, commanding officer of the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Bertholf, told reporters during a port call in Manila that two Chinese coast guard ships were spotted in the vicinity of the exercise.
 

Jono

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purely one sided propaganda and BS from the US who views themselves as saviour of the world.
China is not the only country fishing in the South China Seas, and singling out China alone for criticism smacks of a smearing campaign.
Besides, China is probably the only country enforcing the annual 2 month-long fishing ban which is vehemently opposed by Vietnam and the Philipines.
Jura, if you persist in posting this kind of article without any comments, then members have the right to suspect you are a troll, by perceiving you as bending backwards to irritate some of us.
and you do seem to have a habit of posting negative articles on China from biased MSM without personal comments.
 

Bob Smith

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purely one sided propaganda and BS from the US who views themselves as saviour of the world.
China is not the only country fishing in the South China Seas, and singling out China alone for criticism smacks of a smearing campaign.
Besides, China is probably the only country enforcing the annual 2 month-long fishing ban which is vehemently opposed by Vietnam and the Philipines.
Jura, if you persist in posting this kind of article without any comments, then members have the right to suspect you are a troll, by perceiving you as bending backwards to irritate some of us.
and you do seem to have a habit of posting negative articles on China from biased MSM without personal comments.

As someone living in the US, it's funny how the "free" media doesn't deviate from the American point of view when it comes to foreign policy. They may share differences when it comes to Democratic and Republican domestic view points but pertaining to any international news, they may as well all be state funded.
 

Jono

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well, members have different opinions and that's alright. But when someone posts an article, he or she should give personal comments on the content so that we can have an intelligent and fruitful discussions / debate to further our knowledge as a group.
I have joined this forum many years ago, and I have learned so much from members discussing and debating even though I am not a technical person or engineer.
I still hope to learn more and more things in the years to come, cheers!
 

Gatekeeper

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purely one sided propaganda and BS from the US who views themselves as saviour of the world.
China is not the only country fishing in the South China Seas, and singling out China alone for criticism smacks of a smearing campaign.
Besides, China is probably the only country enforcing the annual 2 month-long fishing ban which is vehemently opposed by Vietnam and the Philipines.
Jura, if you persist in posting this kind of article without any comments, then members have the right to suspect you are a troll, by perceiving you as bending backwards to irritate some of us.
and you do seem to have a habit of posting negative articles on China from biased MSM without personal comments.

They should make some sort of rule that requires the poster to have some meaningful comments. And not just posting propoganda dressed as news.
 

Gatekeeper

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As someone living in the US, it's funny how the "free" media doesn't deviate from the American point of view when it comes to foreign policy. They may share differences when it comes to Democratic and Republican domestic view points but pertaining to any international news, they may as well all be state funded.

Its "free press" because they keep telling the masses so!
 

Gatekeeper

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well, members have different opinions and that's alright. But when someone posts an article, he or she should give personal comments on the content so that we can have an intelligent and fruitful discussions / debate to further our knowledge as a group.
I have joined this forum many years ago, and I have learned so much from members discussing and debating even though I am not a technical person or engineer.
I still hope to learn more and more things in the years to come, cheers!

100% agreed. Furthermore, I noticed certain members here only use one liners, and only asking others to give explaination/rasonale, etc. but they themself always avoide answering any meaningful questions.

They also got annoying habits of taking past comments out of context, and use this as a way to contridict current topic of discussions.
 
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