Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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Tam

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I can surely say that there must be some big brother behind the deal. No matter how, when the strong enemy is in front of you, you can't afford to fight internally. We'll see 5G enable iPhone soon.


They got no other choice.

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Intel says it will exit the 5G phone business as Apple and Qualcomm strike multiyear deal
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This is likely why Apple and Qualcomm settled


I get the feeling that this was settled in Qualcomm's terms, meaning some money leaving out of Apple's pockets and into Qualcomm's.
 
A New Consensus Is Emerging On How to Handle The Risk from China’s 5G
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tries to sound cunning:
Chinese telecom tech is invading the physical world, but Europeans and industry have strategies to contain the threat.

Much of the Western intelligence debate around Chinese high-speed 5G technology has focused on hardware and software. Once the hardware is already out in the wild — which most think is inevitable — the future of the fight is in managing risk. It’s doable, if not yet widely advertised, according to several experts speaking at a U.S. intelligence conference this week, by quarantining Chinese equipment and deploying smarter electromagnetic spectrum management tools to better handle threats.

Bottom line: Huawei leads the world in the ability to rapidly produce cheap telecom hardware (as well as the underlying software.) Recent reports, including
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, state it plainly. It’s one reason why European countries, including U.S. allies like Germany and the U.K., have been reluctant to ban tech from Huawei outright, even in the face of heavy U.S. pressure.

But — quietly — many European countries like the U.K. and France actually are banning Huawei’s 5G tech in part by effectively quarantining it away from vital parts of infrastructure, or military and intelligence activities, according to James Lewis, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “They don’t let Huawei near their sensitive intelligence facilities, their sensitive military facilities,” said Lewis.

Some European countries are using architecture tricks to put Chinese tech on a short leash, Lewis said. For instance, a country might allow Huawei to play in the portion of the Radio Access Network where individual users connect to cell towers but not in what’s called
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where those towers connect and communicate to one another via a shared central node. “The theory is…watch them in the core network,” he said.

If you haven’t heard about that, that’s in part by design. Europeans, says Lewis, are eager to appear more neutral than their U.S. counterparts. “They don’t go around announcing it.”

If the United States can convince other countries to take similar risk approaches, then they will succeed in limiting the reach of Chinese telecom, even if they don’t succeed in banning it.

One of the Department of Homeland Security’s top advisors on the matter would not say if DHS was advocating a similar approach to 5G for the U.S.

“The U.S. is having discussions internally about the approach we want to take,” said John Costello, senior advisor to the director of the Office of Strategy, Policy and Plans for the department’s newly established Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency.

Today’s discussion about Chinese hardware and software likely will look dated in a few years, as 5G apps require a lot of electromagnetic spectrum. In the United States, key areas of the so-called mid-band are ruled by the Navy and some satellite communications. The U.S. already is in the process of trying to figure out how the military and the public can share those areas of spectrum that are key to the development of future 5G apps and services.

Here’s where today’s military technology could play a role —
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which is sometimes called cognitive electromagnetic warfare.

“Software-defined frequency selection is a key component of the technology,” for mitigating the risks posed by future, blended 5G networks, according to Leland Brown, technology development manager at Intel Federal.

Intel is working on “new technologies to not only have the devices change frequencies but understand where those threats exist and transfer connectivity,” Brown says, in order to identify and move away from potential threats, just as the computer aboard an F-35 fighter jet identifies, tracks, and attempts to trick jamming weapons within the spectrum. But there is only so much next-generation AI can do, he says.

“The more we connect things, the greater insecurity,” he says. That trend of connecting things shows no signs of stopping.
 

CMP

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Sounds like a subtle admission that completely barring Huawei 5G will wind up being far more costly than it’s worth. Makes much more sense to reap those savings and higher quality but just keep the core parts Western (Nokia and Ericsson). That DHS is even having internal discussions at all about this issue shows it is not a completely foregone conclusion. On an unrelated note, even major NYC retailers (such as B&H) still carry Huawei, and have P30 Pro available.

A New Consensus Is Emerging On How to Handle The Risk from China’s 5G
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tries to sound cunning:
 
now I read
Huawei showcases 5G technology in Malaysian exhibition
Xinhua| 2019-04-18 23:35:10
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China's technology giant Huawei demonstrated its 5G technology and applications at a 5G Showcase in Malaysia on Thursday that drew the attention of Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.

Mahathir made a 5G video phone call using a Huawei phone when he visited the company's booth at the 5G Malaysia Showcase event in the country's administration center of Putrajaya.

When delivering his speech, Mahathir Mohamad said Malaysia's manufacturing sector would benefit greatly from 5G technology, both in terms of investments and better processes.

"5G will impact every industry that are vital to the growth of the country's economy," he said.

The 93-year-old prime minister pointed to his introduction of the Multimedia Super Corridor initiative in 1996 during his previous term in office, as it became the stepping stone for bringing internet infrastructure into Malaysia as an example of how the country needed to embrace new technology to stay ahead.

He added that 5G technology was a step ahead of the initial capabilities with an emphasis on greater connectivity and convergence of technology.

"It promises a world, where not only people are connected, but all things are connected. From cars on the roads to robotic devices and doctors able to perform surgeries from the other side of the world to a fleet of drones that can fly over a field of crops, using sensors on the ground to sort, pick, feed, and water individual plants automatically," he said.

The showcase aims to highlight the potential of 5G where the Malaysian public can come and have first-hand user experience on the use cases and demos from local and international organizations.

Huawei was among the industry players that participated in the event.

Yuan Ming, head of Huawei Malaysia, told Xinhua that the company has established cooperation with leading Malaysian mobile operators like Maxis and Celcom.

As soon as Malaysia complete its planning of 5G network, Huawei is confident that it could support the mobile operators to deploy the networks in a large scale and in minimum time, he said.
 

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SHENZHEN, April 17 (Xinhua) -- Chinese tech giant Huawei has announced it will invest 300 million U.S. dollars every year over the next five to ten years for funding research in basic science and technology.

Huawei establishes the Institute of Strategic Research to focus on research into cutting-edge technology, and the company will invest 300 million U.S. dollars each year to fund academic research in basic science and technology, said William Xu, director of the Huawei Board, at the annual global analyst summit at its headquarters in Shenzhen in southern China.

According to Xu, Huawei is moving into the era of "Innovation 2.0", in which the company will overcome bottlenecks in theories and basic technologies hindering the development of information and communication technology.

Xu, also president of the Huawei Institute of Strategic Research, said the establishment of the research facility would help make Innovation 2.0 a reality.

In Innovation 1.0, Xu said, the Chinese telecommunication giant focused on providing innovative products, technologies and solutions that meet customer needs.

In innovation 2.0, innovation will be steered into theories and basic technologies that can promote social progress.

Xu said Huawei is facing theoretical and engineering bottlenecks like the inevitable slowdown of Moore's Law. It says that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit double about every two years, but the rate of progress is expected to reach saturation in recent years.

He noted that universities make significant contributions in these areas and collaboration between businesses and universities can bring mutual benefits.

According to Xu, the company plans to build labs, work with industry peers and universities and make investments to drive innovation in theories and basic technologies which will inspire revolutionary changes and benefit the industry and the world.

More than 700 partner representatives, analysts and reporters attended Huawei's annual analyst summit that will wrap up Thursday.

Headquartered in Shenzhen, privately-owned Huawei is a world-leading telecommunication solution provider and also one of the world's major smartphone brands.
 
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Chinese smartphone makers gain an edge in foldable handsets as delays beset Samsung’s Galaxy Fold
  • Huawei predicted to be Samsung’s main competition in nascent global market for foldable smartphones
Updated: 6:01pm, 23 Apr, 2019
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China’s major mobile phone makers could get the inside track in the nascent global market for foldable smartphones, as technical issues have delayed the commercial release of Samsung Electronics’ Galaxy Fold.

Huawei Technologies, the world’s largest telecommunications equipment manufacturer and China’s biggest smartphone supplier, is expected to benefit from Samsung’s deferred launch if the Shenzhen-based company can fast-track the introduction of its 5G-ready, foldable Mate X model.

“Launching ahead of Samsung will help improve Huawei’s brand image,” said Jia Mo, a Shanghai-based analyst at research firm Canalys. “But Huawei has to make sure that its foldable phone won’t have similar technical problems as Samsung.”

The Galaxy Fold, with prices starting at US$1,980, was set to release this Friday in the US via mobile network operators AT&T and T-Mobile as well as electronics retailer Best Buy and Samsung’s own Experience Stores.

The South Korean electronics giant, however, decided to delay the Galaxy Fold’s release because of unspecified technical problems, according to a statement on Tuesday. “We plan to announce the [new] release date in the coming weeks,” it said.

A Reuters report said the delay appeared to be related to the Galaxy Fold’s screen either cracking or flickering, according to Twitter posts by technology journalists from Bloomberg, The Verge and CNBC, who received the smartphone this week for review purposes.

“Initial findings from the inspection of reported issues on the display showed that they could be associated with impact on the top and bottom exposed areas of the hinge,” said Samsung in the statement. “There was also an instance where substances found inside the device affected the display performance.”

Samsung said it “will enhance the guidance on care and use of the display, including the protective layer” as some early users removed the device’s top layer.

A Huawei spokesman said they had no comment.

At the MWC Barcelona trade show in Spain in February, Huawei announced that the Mate X will go on sale in China and across Europe around June, with retail prices starting at US$2,600.

Jia of Canalys predicted the biggest competitor to Samsung in the foldable smartphone market will be Huawei, which was the world’s third largest smartphone supplier last year behind Samsung and Apple.

Other Chinese Android device makers, including Xiaomi Corp, Oppo and Vivo, are yet to formally announce the commercial roll-out plans for their foldable handsets, according to Jia.

Smartphone companies are offering models that are now powerful and big enough to challenge personal computers in functionality, with foldable smartphones being touted as a laptop alternative and with a price tag to match.

The success of Chinese mobile phone makers, such as Huawei and Xiaomi, to quickly develop devices catering to such trend shows how these players have changed people’s perception that domestic suppliers are only good for inexpensive, low-quality products.

Royole Corp, a Chinese technology unicorn that makes the world’s thinnest full-colour flexible display, already unveiled its own foldable smartphone, called the “FlexPai”, in November last year. The high-end model of this device will sell for about US$1,865.

Despite its recent setback, Samsung has been working on two other foldable smartphone models. It is said to be developing a clamshell-like device, and another that folds away from the user similar to Huawei’s Mate X, said people familiar with the matter in a Bloomberg report last month.

“Samsung’s effort shows how the application of new materials and technologies can be very challenging, but it promotes the development of the whole smartphone industry,” said Zaker Li, a senior industry analyst with IHS Markit.

Samsung’s Galaxy Fold, which can fold in half like a book, was designed to run multiple apps simultaneously, allowing users to stream video, play a mobile game, and send text messages at the same time.

“I do not think the delay [of the Galaxy Fold launch] will negatively impact the company,” said Li. “There is no mass production, so Samsung has no financial or market share loss.”
 

Godric

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simply put Amerika does not like competition or playing on level playing fields because they cannot win, there goods are cack hence there massive trade deficit ... they don't produce products people want to purchase

And they are not happy the EU has ignored the USA over Huawei ... it's time the yanks reeled there red necks in
 

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So much for stopping Huawei 5G network from entering the EU or 'the five eyes' nations.

British PM approves Huawei role in 5G network: report
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Last month, Britain identified "significant technological issues" in Huawei's engineering processes that pose "new risks" for the nation's telecommunications (AFP Photo/JOHN MACDOUGALL)
London (AFP) - British Prime Minister Theresa May has given the go-ahead for China's Huawei to help build a 5G network, shrugging off security warnings from senior ministers and Washington, the Daily Telegraph reported Wednesday.

The country's National Security Council, which is chaired by May, agreed Tuesday to allow the Chinese technology giant limited access to build "non-core" infrastructure such as antennas, the report said.

The decision was made despite concerns raised over May's approach by Home Secretary Sajid Javid, Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox and International Development Secretary Penny Mordaunt.

Downing Street declined to comment but Huawei welcomed the newspaper report.

"Huawei welcomes reports that the UK government is moving towards allowing Huawei to help build the UK's 5G network," it said in a statement.

"This green light means that UK businesses and consumers will have access to the fastest and most reliable networks thanks to Huawei's cutting edge technology.

"While we await a formal government announcement, we are pleased that the UK is continuing to take an evidence-based approach to its work and we will continue work cooperatively with the government, and the industry."

The United States has however banned Huawei's 5G technology from its territory and urged allies in the so-called Five Eyes intelligence sharing collective -- which also includes Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zealand -- to follow suit.

Huawei is the leading manufacturer of equipment for next-generation 5G mobile networks with almost instantaneous data transfer that will become the nervous system of Europe's economy, in strategic sectors like energy, transport, banking and health care.

The technology titan faces pushback in some Western markets over fears Beijing could spy on communications and gain access to critical infrastructure.

Last month, Britain identified "significant technological issues" in Huawei's engineering processes that pose "new risks" for the nation's telecommunications, according to a government report.

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So much for stopping Huawei 5G network from entering the EU or 'the five eyes' nations.



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Yes the UK simply has too much to loose by banning Hauwai.
Hauwai employs lots of people, have vast stake in the UK telecommunication industry. On top of that, the UK simply don't want to hurt GDP growth by getting left behind technologically, paticularly with the Brexit debacle.
On top of all that, the UK has worked too hard to get back on side with China and access to China's huge market after the dali lama debacle during Cameron/Osborne period to simply thtow it alll away to appease US foreign policy.
Its very ironic that right now theirs a hunt going on for the leaking of this information. The leak certainly didn't come from Hauwai!
I'm just surprised that the countries down under still holding out (at great cost for very little benefits)!
 
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