its weird that J-10 don't have any international customers yet . How does J-10 compares with mig , sukohi , f-16 , or other european medium duty fighter in cost/performance ?
J-10 Thread IV
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vesicles
Colonel
It's not weird. The J-10 doesn't have any international customers yet because China does not want to sell it. The Chinese government has not shown even a shred of intention to sell their backbone fighter.
I disagree. China has publicly tried to sell the J-10 to Pakistan and even Argentina in the past.
The problem is most traditional Chinese weapons clients don't have the capital to acquire the aircraft or the human resources to maintain them.
Chinese technical support for such expensive weapons systems is still a big unknown in the market. Also when a country buys into an expensive weapons system like this, it's typically more than just a weapons sale. You get into political and defensive alliance considerations as well.
The problem is most traditional Chinese weapons clients don't have the capital to acquire the aircraft or the human resources to maintain them.
Chinese technical support for such expensive weapons systems is still a big unknown in the market. Also when a country buys into an expensive weapons system like this, it's typically more than just a weapons sale. You get into political and defensive alliance considerations as well.
Are you kidding me?!!!! This is not True, In Past few years China Hard try to Marketing and Selling J-10 to many Countries like Bangladesh, iran, Pakistan, Argentina, .....,But All of Them Failed, because in global Market With This Performance and Cost, J-10 Had not Any Chance Against competitors (Mig-35/Su-30 From Russia, JF-17 Sino/PAC, JAS39 Gripen Sweden, F-16 USA)
vesicles
Colonel
Would you mind sharing some evidence? To the best of my knowledge, China has sent their AF aerobatic team, which is consisted of the J-10A’s, abroad many times for demonstration purposes. I have not heard anything about China attempting to market their J-10 to other countries. Many have expressed interest, but China has not shown their willingness to sell.
That is a first time ever for me. Such rumours were found ONLY on various BBS without any credible backing, and you can't take that serious.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
It's also late on the scene. At the time it hit the PLA the the market wasn't just flooded but lagging as the fifth gens were on the block.
Lets just have a look into the list:
Bangladesh: there were persistent rumors, but they were never confirmed up till now. Not only is country cash-stripped, there also is a competition from Russian producers(Bangladesh operates Mig-29s).
Iran: under strong UN sanctions(direct prohibition) and strong US pressure on top. China:US relations already have enough hot points to add the most toxic fighter deal possible. +relations with Israel and gulf monarchies.
It is telling what even Russia(which has little to loose with the US, but much to gain from thr cash inflow) still avoids selling top birds to Iran, inspite of persistent interest. Pressure against Iran is just high.
Ah, and bonus: unlike many others, Iran is a tech security hazard. Can't blame them when even ongoing import frequently fails, but producer's prospective is different.
Pakistan: many rumors, again, but newer f-16s are still viable, and focus is on jf-17 procurement.
Argentina: simple: who is going to pay?
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Not to mention that that was under the Kerchner. The current government doesn't seem to have the same priorities.
