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"While the Izumo will be converted to carry fighter jets, it will be designated as a multipurpose helicopter destroyer, with no F-35B squadron expected to be permanently assigned to it."
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That we can say wait and see. Because if the JMSDF and JASDF feel the need they might decide to ignore that.
 

Jeff Head

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cross-posting from
Aircraft Carriers III

LOL I'm not going to 'double-down' on Feb 27, 2018

now;
I'll say I was wrong once orders (for the Izumo refit and for F-35Bs) are placed OK?

in the meantime, some interesting quotes:

"Defense officials ... saying Izumo will be a multifunctional warship used as an aircraft carrier only when necessary for national defense."
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"While the Izumo will be converted to carry fighter jets, it will be designated as a multipurpose helicopter destroyer, with no F-35B squadron expected to be permanently assigned to it."
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plus the link to what DefenseNews had to say
With massive F-35 increase, Japan is now biggest international buyer

3 hours ago
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Oh...we will see F-35Bs on the Izumo calss...and they will do so whenev er they feel it necessary.

I also believe now that the elusive next generation carrier we have heard about will be built. Probably two of them, and they will probably have a ski jump, be marginally larger in disoakcement, and have a significantly larger hanger.

I exect before it is all said and done...they will buy more F-35Bs too.

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Oh...we will see F-35Bs on the Izumo calss...and they will do so whenev er they feel it necessary.

I also believe now that the elusive next generation carrier we have heard about will be built. Probably two of them, and they will probably have a ski jump, be marginally larger in disoakcement, and have a significantly larger hanger.

I exect before it is all said and done...they will buy more F-35Bs too.

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That is the DDV 192 Ibuki from a Japanese Graphic novel /soon to be Movie next year.
 

Jeff Head

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YEs...but there was, 2-3 years ago, astudy done by researchers in the JMSDF tht produced something that looked very much like it...and they taklked about a potential need for foour of them to augment the four Hyuga and Izumo (combined) that they alreay have.

I believe the Japanese are letting the Chinese know that they can help trump them.

...and now Australia is saying they may very much want F-35Bs for their two Canberras, and the South Koreans are already talking abut the same for their new Dokdo+ carrier...or maybe two.

And, with the US having ten 40,000+ ton LHA/LHDs, each of which capable of carrying 20 more F-35Bs at anytime, the numbers become overwhelming, particularly with all of them carrying 5th gen stealth strike fighters.

The US would have a total of twenty-one (11 CVNs + 10 LHA/LHD) backed up by eight more from Japan, Australia, and South Korea.

Not to mention Italy, Spain, the UK, and France being able to field six ore more too. That's thirty five carriers available.

...and talk about F-35B sales soaring...I thinkk they are going to. India may get into the act as well.
 

Janiz

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The US would have a total of twenty-one (11 CVNs + 10 LHA/LHD) backed up by eight more from Japan, Australia, and South Korea.
And all of that for one simple reason - PLAN getting aircraft carriers. The higher-ups of the mentioned navies can only thank China as now they have a reason to get money for new 'toys' like F-35B's.
 

SamuraiBlue

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That we can say wait and see. Because if the JMSDF and JASDF feel the need they might decide to ignore that.
They'll have to since there aren't enough fighter pilots within the ranks. It will take at least 10 years to train new recruits and probably around 5 to train them to jump off a carrier so it's either no pilots on the carrier OR pilots on the carriers also carry out scramble mission to intercept potential approaching boggies.
Basically they will get two for one special training and carrying out missions at the same time.
 
here's what DefenseNews had to say
Japan seeks drones, subs, F-35 jets as part of $243 billion defense-spending plan

1 hour ago
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Japan intends to procure more F-35 fighter jets, shipborne unmanned aircraft and submarines, according to newly released midterm defense guidelines and an associated defense plan.
But the MTDP provided more details, particularly that Japan plans to acquire 45 F-35s, including 18 "B" models over the next five years, with the remainder of Japan’s F-35 force being the F-35A conventional takeoff and landing variant.

The F-35s will allow the Japan Air Self-Defense Force to up its number of fighter squadrons by one, to 13 total, most likely by converting the JASDF’s photo-reconnaissance unit into a fighter squadron as it
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sometime in 2020.

The MTDP also said Japan will seek to introduce three shipborne unmanned aerial systems during the next five years, although details were scarce. These will likely take the form of vertical-takeoff-and-landing UAS for operations onboard a new class of eight multipurpose destroyers Japan is currently building.

Defense News learned that Japan has sought information about the Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout as far back as 2016, although the government has not committed to an acquisition.

Local industry to benefit

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from the procurement plans outlined in the MTDP, with several projects being handled by local companies.

In addition to modifications of two Izumo-class helicopter destroyers to operate the F-35B, Japan will also bulk up its maritime patrol aircraft fleet with 12 more Kawasaki P-1s expected in the next five years. This will mark a resumption in Japan’s procurement in the type after not having done so in the past four budget cycles.

Under the MTDP, The P-1s would be joined by a more modest increase in airlift capabilities, including three more Kawasaki C-2 airlifters and a similar number of CH-47JA Chinook heavy-lift helicopters, which are locally assembled by Kawasaki under licence from Boeing.

The government’s plan also seeks an increase in the country’s defense-related footprint in space and improved cyber capabilities, as well as a buildup of multi- and cross-domain capabilities.

The long-awaited documents, released Tuesday afternoon Tokyo time and formally approved by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s Cabinet, would see Japan spend almost $243 billion on defense over the next five fiscal years, which in Japan begins April 1 and ends March 31 the following year.

Known as the National Defense Program Guidelines and the Mid-Term Defense Plan, or MTDP, the documents outline Japan’s defense policy and outlook for the next five fiscal years as the country grapples with the rising economic and military power by regional rival China and the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.

The biggest news to come out of the MTDP was the confirmation that Japan will seek to add to its buy of an additional 105 Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighters, which would include 42 F-35B short-takeoff-and-vertical-landing aircraft, although this was not much of a surprise, as Japan’s Ministry of Defense had briefed a number of reporters about the details prior to the guidelines' release.
 
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