Aircraft Carriers III

bd popeye

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Doesn't look like its a particularly quick process with modern guided weapons, even for the USN. I can imagine all of the tests that will be run on the guidance systems prior to sign off will take some time.

Not true. Squadron personnel are on the flight deck doing "wire checks" long before the weapons ever get to the roof. That only takes a few minutes per-aircraft. JDAM, Laser guided bombs etc don't take a lot of time to build. The building of bombs is constant if the flight schedule calls for any sort of weapons. This is known well in advance of any mission. And it does not take a long time to load most weapons because the USN loads most weapons weighing less than 500lbs by hand;

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ARABIAN GULF (July 22, 2016) Aviation ordnancemen load ordnance to the wing of an F/A-18F Super Hornet assigned to the Fighting Swordsmen of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 32 on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Dwight D. Eisenhower and its carrier strike group are deployed in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Nathan T. Beard/Released)

I really wish I had a time machine so I could take you guys aboard any Nimitz class just to see how it operates.
 
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bd popeye

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Ships company Ordies build the bombs and move the bombs below deck On the Roof ship companies ordies insure the squadrons are getting the weapons they need for the mission. Squadron Ordies do pre-flight of weapons systems and load weapons.
 

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Sorry, should have made it clear they were trainees in the video.
But thinking about the 6 bombs per hour...it makes no sense. QE is designed for c100 sorties per day. Presumably a sortie would mean weapons release. And even if there is some sort of metric involved like only 50% of weapons are deployed in total the 6 per hour number doesn't stack up. Even with the HMWHS QE will still have 50 personnel at least in those spaces. Could it in fact mean 6 bombs per hour per weapons prep area? That would make more sense. The 6 bombs or 3 missiles mentioned would otherwise mean the sortie rate would be vastly lower. After all we'd expect each F-35B sortie to take off with at least 4-6 weapons onboard. And that would mean 1 takeoff per hour, which is clearly incorrect.
 
Sorry, should have made it clear they were trainees in the video.
But thinking about the 6 bombs per hour...it makes no sense. QE is designed for c100 sorties per day. Presumably a sortie would mean weapons release. And even if there is some sort of metric involved like only 50% of weapons are deployed in total the 6 per hour number doesn't stack up. Even with the HMWHS QE will still have 50 personnel at least in those spaces. Could it in fact mean 6 bombs per hour per weapons prep area? That would make more sense. The 6 bombs or 3 missiles mentioned would otherwise mean the sortie rate would be vastly lower. After all we'd expect each F-35B sortie to take off with at least 4-6 weapons onboard. And that would mean 1 takeoff per hour, which is clearly incorrect.
so ... daily average number of sorties flown off QEC will be:

you know I'm going to check around the time I'm retired (LOL 2036)
 

Timmymagic

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so ... daily average number of sorties flown off QEC will be:

you know I'm going to check around the time I'm retired (LOL 2036)

Who knows...No chance of seeing a loadout of 36 F-35B onboard until the late 2020's unless the USMC pitch in...even then only for a short duration.
 
Nov 7, 2018
Oct 19, 2018
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Truman CSG: Arctic Strike Group Operations Required Focus on Logistics, Safety
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while now
Truman Strike Group Headed Home After ‘Dynamic’ Deployment
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The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group has sailed out of U.S. 6th Fleet and is on its way back to its homeport in Norfolk, Va.

The strike group is wrapping up the second of two back-to-back three-month deployments as part of the Navy’s first attempt to demonstrate the Pentagon’s dynamic force employment concept.

The HST CSG departed in April, returned home for a five-week-long working port visit in Norfolk in July, and then left again in late August to head to the High North.

During the second prong of the deployment, the strike group bucked all recent norms for carrier strike groups: bypassing ongoing missions in the Middle East, the ships sailed north to Canada for training and then on to Iceland, Great Britain and Norway. The strike group spent a couple weeks operating north of the Arctic Circle, a first since the early 1990s. All told, USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) and its escorts had a presence in the Atlantic Ocean and Norwegian, Mediterranean and Adriatic seas.

“The National Defense Strategy makes clear that we must be operationally unpredictable to our long-term strategic adversaries, while upholding our commitments to our allies and partners,” Adm. James Foggo, commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa and Allied Joint Force Command Naples, said in a statement today.
“That’s what we’ve done with the Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group. The operations the strike group conducted across the region alongside our allies and partners – and withstanding a variety of austere environmental conditions in the High North – showcase our inherent flexibility, and prove that there are no international waters off limits to our forces, and nothing limiting their ability to support our allies, anywhere or at any time.”

Highlights of the deployment include participating in exercise Baltic Operations (BALTOPS) 2018 from the Adriatic Sea – the first time a carrier has launched aircraft from across the European continent to participate in the exercise, according to the Navy statement – participating in Exercise Trident Juncture 2018 from Norway’s Vestfjorden territorial waters, conducting dual-carrier operations involving F-35C Joint Strike Fighters from USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72), and working with a slew of NATO allies and partners on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.

Truman is making the most of an operating area where carriers typically haven’t gone for a couple of decades. And in doing so, we are rebuilding our muscle memory,” Foggo said in a recent podcast entitled, “On the Horizon: Navigating the European and African Theaters.”
“It’s very important that we take those lessons back home for other future strike group deployments.”

In recent weeks, the strike group sailed to the warmer waters of the Mediterranean, operating off the coasts of Portugal and Spain and in the Adriatic Sea on the eastern side of Italy. The carrier passed through the Strait of Gibraltar on Dec. 4 to return to the Atlantic and is now on its way home.

Truman CSG Commander Rear Adm. Gene Black previously alluded to the strike group returning home before Christmas,
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that, whereas in July for the working port visit “we came back in working uniform and we got to work, this time we’re going to have the whole homecoming with Santa Claus and the band and the radio station, and all the good stuff that comes with that.”

Truman and the strike group will remain on call upon returning home, as part of the sustainment phase of the Optimized Fleet Response Plan that requires the ships to remain at peak readiness in case they are called upon as a surge force or to deploy to an area where there is no strike group.

The units of the Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group that have departed 6th Fleet and returned back to U.S. Fleet Forces Command waters include: Truman, embarked squadrons of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1, Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Normandy (CG-60), Destroyer Squadron 28 leadership, and Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG-98).
 
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CSBA's newly-released vision for the Carrier Air Wing in 2040 calls for 74 aircraft, including 36 UAVs, 10 F-35s, 10 long-range F/A-XX and six E-2Ds.

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CSBA's newly-released vision for the Carrier Air Wing in 2040 calls for 74 aircraft, including 36 UAVs, 10 F-35s, 10 long-range F/A-XX and six E-2Ds.

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2040?
At around that time the MH60 may be getting phase down if the FVL program gets it's way.
E2D and E3 I suspect may not be a long term survival platform.
The Marines MUX platform hopes to include a AEW version and it seems to me like you could put a fixed wing UCAV hull from as a AEW drone.
 
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