J-XX Fighter Aircraft

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Speculative post taken from Key Publishing aviation forum.
Source: big brush @ forum.keypublishing.co.uk



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if JXX intention to incorporate TVC,then why forward canard? wil the final JXX resemble twin engine version of Boeing F-36?
 

kevin JJW

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The Chinese air force new stealth fighter plane is comprehensive vertical states

My air force equips the main production, the development unit is the Chinese aviation first group company. To July 1, 1999 in the original aviation industry main corporation partial mainstays enterprise, in the institution foundation sets up. A this group company establishment, the organization large quantities of experts, "around 2020 aircraft equipment developmental strategy" has carried on the science proof. And in this foundation, proposed in the aircraft engine, air operated, fire control and so on 13 specialized domains to 2020 around development goal. And also proposed "the production improves a generation, develops a generation, a advanced research generation, explores a generation" main aircraft equipment development mentality, and through new "a four generation" the equipment development, future will equip take the time as my air force continues and the surmounting -like development builds the reliable foundation.

One: The production improves a generation <! --sk-->

China at present the main production/improves a generation of battle airplane is: Shen Fei annihilates -8B/C/D/F/H, annihilates -11, annihilates -11B; Cheng Fei annihilates -7G, annihilates -10, annihilates -10 fight/trainer aircraft; West flies annihilates the bang -7, annihilates rumbles -7A, new bang -6 and so on. Among them, annihilated -8B/C/D/F/H to use the synthesis fire control system which our country independently developed, and has provided the WP-13B/F engine which our country newly ground, has had the strength which -2000-5 contended with with F-16A/B and the illusory image, will be my air force in the near future is maturer, practical fighter plane; Annihilates -11B is our country in introduces the Soviet -27 production technology in the foundation, the innovation development entire domestic product annihilates -11. This machine in the SU-27CK airplane foundation, the maintenance original overall layout and the functional system performance is invariable, but the engine replaced the domestically produced WS-10 engine, the fire control radar replaced the domestically produced 1,474 radars, and can add hangs domestically produced weapon and so on PL-12 missile. Annihilates 11B and Soviet -27CK compares, the airplane weight, the flight performance, the organism life and so on basic is invariable, develops this machine, mainly causes to annihilate -11 entire domestic product, enhances my air force weapon combat readiness integrity, reduces to the Russia side dependence. This machine flew to December 6, 2003, finalizes in 2005 goes into production. Shenyang 601 also planned in annihilates in the -11B foundation, further improves the development to annihilate multipurpose -11, the model estimate annihilates -11C. Cheng Fei annihilates -7G is annihilates -7E further the advanced version, the main improvement fire control system, has equipped the helmet mounted sight, in the near distance wrestle aspect, on a stair, has equipped the army in 2004; Annihilates -10 already in August, 2004 the official equipment army. This machine development has been through repeatedly for 20 years, the performance and F-16C/D quite, is my air force 2020 ago main action fighter plane. This machine installs a WS-10 engine, and provides 1,473 fire control radars. This machine fire control system is the advanced synthesis fire control system which our country independently develops. This machine further development is 双座 annihilates -10 fight/trainer aircraft, flew in December, 2003; West flew annihilates rumbles -7A already to equip the army, surpassed Soviet -30MKK2 to the place precise attack ability, this machine provided two complete domestic products WS-9; The further advanced version in the plan, namely has annihilated rumbles -7B. Annihilates rumbles -7B to use the compound two-crew cockpit, and installs the navigation/bombing system, the weapon delivery computer, the attack radar, the air intercept terrain following radar and the radar altimeter and so on, will develop into one kind of new medium range supersonic speed strategic bomber; The new bang -6 already started to produce, its fighting efficiency already with Russia's chart -95 and the chart -26 "the counter fire" almost, will become my air force in the near future the strategic offensive force backbone.

Two: Develops a generation

China at present is developing a generation of battle airplane annihilates -13 hiding fighter plane. Annihilates -13 starts in "95" the last stage to set up a development. The country ahead of time invested reaches 8000000000, organized by 611 to develop, after was this continued annihilates -10, the organization develops an national important special project. This machine has used the many kinds of stealth material and the technology, causes it directly direction the radar cross-sectional area (RCS) to reduce 0. 5 meters 2, the enemy side radar will reduce to its probing range half. Which organized using the research institute researcher to annihilates by the Chinese Academy of Science electromagnetic theory and the scientific research group -13 spurts a ferromagnetic radar absorbing material in the air intake and the engine compressor leaf blade surface. One kind of thickness 0. 7MM and 1. The 4MM coating material uses in the air intake; One kind 0. The 5MM coating material uses in front of the low pressure air compressor the level leaf blade. These measures may cause to annihilate the radar return which 13 air intakes produces to reduce 10-15DB; For the stealth, annihilated -13 cockpit cover also to make the improvement, develops the personnel to develop one kind of plasma deposition processing craft, deposits the plasma to the metal and in the polymer material band. The wave shield outside the cabin, simultaneously does not affect the sunlight entering. Annihilates -13 power unit is the WS-10A engine which 624 develops, the maximum thrust is 14,000 kilograms, pushes the nature ratio to approach 9, the engine progression is 7 levels, and has the axial symmetry vector nozzle. This engine core machine has completed the test in 2004, annihilates -13 demonstration prototype to start in 2004 to become flies the general equipment department, estimates 2008-2010 year service. It will use the more advanced comprehensive navigation electricity system, the fire control radar will be 1,475 active phased-arrays radar, will be the our country one kind has the fourth generation of fighter plane characteristic the four generation of medium fighter planes. Before is the our country standard fourth generation of fighter plane appears, should to F-22 and the F-35 threat sharp weapon.

Three: A advanced research generation

After 1990s, the world military hegemony country appeared the fourth generation of fighter plane and the bomber aircraft, like F-22, F-35, B-2 and so on. Below fourth generation of fighter plane has the characteristic: (1) The supersonic flight, the peak velocity is bigger than (or is equal to) 1. 8M, (2) supersonic cruise: Namely does not open the thrust augmentation to be allowed to fly 1. Above 5M, (3) minimum altitude high speed sprint, (4) 失速机动, (5) low altitude airborne period long, (6) upper air airborne period long, (7) combat radius is big, (8) vertical short distance take off and landing, (9) stealth and so on, these characteristics, a fourth generation of fighter plane all has is not impossible, in addition the fighter plane cost expense unceasingly increases, this needs to need to have the choice according to the different tactic to use certain new technologies, causes the different airplane to suit the different war technique request, to this seeks best effect Fei Bi the equipment system. For example, increases along with the airplane development cost, fourth generation of heavy fighter plane working costs soaring, is impossible to popularize the equipment, inevitably must develop with it necessary relatively low-grade medium fourth generation of fighter plane, composes the equipment system which the high bottom matches. This is the equipment system which great nation air force and so on nowadays America and Russia uses. But in our country, because economy level of development also limited, is impossible to look like American such to be able to put out the massive funds, comprehensively equips the fourth generation heavy and the medium fighter plane, but our antiair warfare, also needs the massive fighter planes, this causes our country air force and the aviation industry department according to the our country unique national condition and the military situation proposed has the Chinese characteristic the equipment system: Namely the air force matches in the system in the fighter plane minute high, center, the low third gear matches; The ground attacker aircraft presses far, center, the near minute attack plane, the ground attack bomber aircraft and the strategic bomber third gear matches. In the fourth generation of fighter plane development, my aviation industry department acts according to my air force the equipment system, passes through the long-term advanced research, soon sets up the item, researches and develops following several kind of fighter planes with emphasis: Annihilates -14 heavy fighter plane, annihilates -15 medium fighter plane, annihilates -16 medium supersonic vertical/short distance take off and landing fighter plane, annihilates -17 light multipurpose fighter plane, annihilates the bang -8 ground attack bomber aircraft, as well as bang -9 strategic bomber, strong -7 stealth attack plane.

<1>: Annihilates -14 fourth generation of heavy fighter plane: Annihilates -14 researches and develops by 601, uses two YWH-30-27 which develops by 624 core machine derivation development big thrust motor WS-17, pushes the nature compared to 10, the engine maximum thrust 17,500 kilograms, use the axial symmetry vector nozzle, the airplane contour have point image YF-23, this machines and tools have the better stealth performance, RCS are 0. 15 meters 2, have outstanding Asia, the supersonic lift-drag ratio, but the long time does not open the thrust augmentation to carry on the supersonic cruise and the good subsonic speed, the supersonic maneuver; Has stronger far, center, the close air combat ability, after carries advanced can cope with many goals attack the launch no matter the air-to-air center long-range missile, the big off-boresight launch angle anti- catches up with the short-range dog fight missile which harasses, high might precision guidance to place weapon and so on; Has the high performance the integrated navigation electricity system, in the fusion machine and machine outside the information, provides by the most concise form to the pilot condition posture information, fully plays pilot's role, and realization intelligence assistance flight.

<2>: Annihilates -15 medium fourth generation of fighter plane: Annihilates -15 researches and develops by 601, uses two YWH-20-13 which develops by 624 core machine derivation development high thrust ratio medium duty engine WS-15, the thrust ratio 10, single thrust force 9,500 kilograms.
<3>: Annihilates -16 medium fourth generation of supersonic vertical short distance take off and landing fighter plane: Annihilates -16 researches and develops by 611. This machine development has profited from Russia's elegant gram -141 airplane. This machine uses the stealth design, has the transonic speed, the supersonic cruise ability. May simultaneously carry on the beyond line of sight attack to many goals, may carry out to the place, to sea, ground-to-air and so on many kinds of duties, this machine host cruise propulsion is WS-17, this machine the primary equipment naval air force, uses in to equip the navy to plan the amphibious assault ship or guards Nansha, the Xisha islands airport, supports my marine corps to battle.

<4> annihilates -17 light fourth generation of multipurpose fighter plane: This machine has equipped two WS-14 light duty engine, is I is spatial, the navy massively will equip low gear fourth generation of fighter plane.

<5> strong -7 stealth attack airplane: Strong -7 is our country soon sets up a development the new generation short-range to support the attack airplane, has used the stealth design, equips the YWH-30-27 core machine derivation development which develops by 624 slightly to contain the road not to compare thrust augmentation 涡fan engine WS-18, the maximum thrust 10000-11000 kilogram, has the certain supersonic cruise ability. This machine gradually will replace our country to be strong -5.

<6> annihilates the bang -8 ground attack bomber aircraft: Annihilates the bang -8 is the new generation of ground attack bomber aircraft which our country is going to develop. It developed has referred to Russia's Soviet -34, was annihilates in -11 foundation in our country alone to innovate the development. But this machine and Soviet -34 different are, has used the stealth design. This machine maximum range 7,000 kilometers, the engine uses is two YWH-25-17 core machine derivation development pushing which develop by 624 compared to 91 levels of is bigger thrust motors WS-16, the single maximum thrust 14,000 kilograms, the bomb-carrying capacity amounts to above 10 tons.

<7> bang -9 strategic bomber: The bang -9 sets up the item in 95 years to start the advanced research. This machine in the situation which 无空 center refuels, the range may surpass 8,000 kilometers, has air refueling the situation range to surpass 12,000 kilometers. This machine cruising speed may reach 2M, the defense penetration speed may achieve surpasses 4M, the bomb-carrying capacity 20 tons -40 ton. This machine also has the better stealth performance. The engine is four the YWH-30-27 core machine derivation development big thrust force which develop by 624, pushes compares 101 stage motors WS-19, the maximum thrust is 18,700 kilograms.

Annihilates -14, annihilates -15, annihilates -16, annihilates -17, is strong -7, annihilates the bang -8, bang -9 in 2020 before completes the development, and the equipment army, causes my air force to equip achieves the world advanced level.

Four: Explores a generation

In 2005, the American fourth generation of fighter plane F/A-22 service, causes the world jet fighter plane development to enter the fourth generation. To this at the same time, America, country and so on Russia starts vigorously the advanced research to have the counter- track operational capacity also also has the 4S characteristic the atmospheric cruise fifth generation of fighter plane. Our country navigation industry sector facing the stern situation, "is enterprising by the fervor, the will in surmounted" the spirit, by the practical spirit, according to the our country aviation industry actual level, later will start after 2000 to approach the fifth generation of fighter plane level four generation of fighter planes advanced research and the exploration, take the time after four generation of fighter planes advanced research and the development, further will develop the fifth generation of fighter plane as later to build the solid foundation.

After the our country four generation of fighter planes will be the even more information, intellectualization, an integrated generation of fighter plane. They since an operational carrier, also is a information carrier. At the same time, they or an information contact. They on the one hand can the enemy target which discovered oneself real-time pass to the system network, provides the policy-making basis for the overall system implementation effective attack; On the other hand also may gain any information in the network which oneself needs, thus the maximum limit display its should have fighting efficiency. After the our country four generation of fighter planes both may in the traditional significance aviation, shoulder conventional the air combat mission and the implementation battle to the place, and may You Geyu the atmosphere edge, to the designation goal implementation precise attack. Their supersonic speed cruising speed in 2. 0M-2. Pushing by 2000 between which 5M, the engine is our country starts the ATEKT plan which implements to develop compared to 12-15 engine, according to the correlation literature, very is possible is pushes compares 15 stage motors. Their advanced research model respectively is annihilates -18, annihilates -19, annihilates -20, annihilates -21. Among them, after annihilates -18 will be four generation of heavy fighter planes, looking from the advanced research plan, will use a stealth performance better tailless layout, the contour has A-12 which point image US will discontinue, after will annihilate -19 will be four generation of medium fighter planes, after will annihilate -20 is four generation of medium supersonic vertical/short distances take off and landing fighter plane, will annihilate -21 for is spatial, after the navy general four generation of light fighter planes, they to 2030-2035 year service, for will develop the our country fifth generation of fighter plane to 2050 ago to build the foundation.

As for the ground attacker aircraft aspect, at present is exploring the supersonic track strategic bomber. At present had this aspect long term planning, and includes 863-2 plan, passes through 20 to 30 years development, estimated develops about 2035 successfully, and equipment army. The ground attack bomber aircraft aspect, from will annihilate the bang -8 to start to be able to adopt severely in the fighter plane foundation the modification development method, the development new ground attack bomber aircraft. For example, take annihilates -14 annihilates the bang as the foundation research and development -14, as well as take annihilates -18 annihilates the bang as the foundation development -18 and so on, like this, effect Fei Bigao, enables my tactic bombing army promptly to obtain newly machine, unceasingly strengthens our country the airborne attack ability. US'S FB-22 plan explained the future ground attack bomber aircraft development method direction with Russia's SU-34 development.
 

kickars

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Found these two photos from CD forum. They seem to be the latest photos of J-XX.
 

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Gollevainen

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...krhmm..Its a normal flight simulator, can be from any possiple plane...how is it all the suddenly "latest photoes of J-xx"?? How its confirmed that it has anything to do with J-xx?
 

kickars

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...krhmm..Its a normal flight simulator, can be from any possiple plane...how is it all the suddenly "latest photoes of J-xx"?? How its confirmed that it has anything to do with J-xx?

Oh well, as I said they SEEM to be...not they ARE...;) Anyway, I was just simply quoting what I saw from that forum. So I can't confirm they have anything to do with J-XX. At the same time I can't confirm they don't have anything to do with J-XX, either! So that's why I used 'seem'.

Hey, I'm just a Chinese who lives in the west. As most of people use this forum can't read Chinese. I simply want to share some latest pictures (from one of the biggest Chinese online forum) which SEEM to have something to do with this topic (J-XX). You may think they don't have anything to do with this topic. Fine, that's your option and rights. But, please do not question me like I'm an idiot. Coz all I'm doing here is sharing and talking about PLA just like yourself. I know you are a Mod. Therefore, you try to make sure this forum is better than most of other similar forums. But it doesn't mean trying to make people scared of posting new information or giving their own options. Because the information or options may not be 'professional' enough for this forum! I don't think it well do any good to this website. In fact, what we can see is that in the past 6 months or so this forum has been quite quiet. Most replies were just made by few old members.

Finally, I just want to say: can we just relax when we share information on this forum? If not I guess for the past 16 months I've been in a wrong forum (coz after 8hr of work everyday I don't need another boss looking over my shoulder). So you may just delete all my posts. I promise I will not bother your professional PLA website again! :mad:
 
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