One only has to look at its specs.for that,to,said ie. Thrust to,weight ratio less than 1 to 1 most times small internal air to,air missile loadout in stealth mode maneuverability said to equal (but not surpassing) the f16 stressed BVR combat preference lack of internal gun on Marine and Navy birds and I can go on poor pilot visibility for dogfighter (can be a real downer) in a turning dogfight just seems though they have forgtten all the lessons learned over and over again
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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I don't understand why are you randomly talking about possible weaknesses of F-35? If you can back your claims up, should have done so in your original opinion statement. Otherwise the gesture seems to just be an attempt at flaming. Also F-35 thrust to weight ratio I can guarantee you do not know. We've all seen it climb at a rate that matches most capable fighters. Sure it is unloaded but all the other flankers etc are also unloaded when they perform. Nothing suggests its thrust/weight is less than 1.
Couldn't find a better theme.
Some beautiful renderings of "what if" production variant of F-32.
Quite a bird in it's proposed configuration, actually.
Half-stealth (c), though.(spoiler: no, it was expected to meet all signature requirements)
Lightning is certainly prettier, but quite interesting nevertheless.
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Some beautiful renderings of "what if" production variant of F-32.
Quite a bird in it's proposed configuration, actually.
Half-stealth (c), though.(spoiler: no, it was expected to meet all signature requirements)
Lightning is certainly prettier, but quite interesting nevertheless.
More at:
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First answer to your statement is 1. Stated from lockheeds own data 2. It' s a poor match for the Chinese j20 visibility wise and thrust in a turning dogfight it simply can' turn as good 3. The lack of a internal gun is a severe detrement in such an encounter for Marine and Navy aircraft 4.pilot visibility is not nearly good enough in such an encounter 5. It's main stealth feature is from a frontal angle (Not unlike any aircraft for that matter) 6.its IR signal is tremendous from what I understand 7. To be fair the 35 really isn'
A difficult as such it' main strength in Air to Air is BVR which can be good if the enemy can' see you but once they do and merge these weaknesses can and will be exploited again the the as any aircraft all have strengts and weaknessesbut the 35 should not ever be perceived as a pure dogfighter in the sense of the word it simply is NOT
It seems like you've come out of nowhere to tell us how the F-35 is no dogfighter. It wasn't a topic being discussed at all. Why did you feel the need to share that opinion with nothing to back it up. Still nothing to back it up. You don't have any means to know how well these fighters will perform in dogfights. Thrust to weight depends on loading and fuel. disclosed ratio is decent and not much worse than fourth gen performers.
J-20 also does not have a gun. The designers see no point for one given the sacrifice in space and weight. F-35 is primarily a strike fighter. Given the massive advantages offered by VLO, it will still be a better air superiority fighter than all 4th gen fighters in the world.
J-20 also does not have a gun. The designers see no point for one given the sacrifice in space and weight. F-35 is primarily a strike fighter. Given the massive advantages offered by VLO, it will still be a better air superiority fighter than all 4th gen fighters in the world.
Actually have been here bout 4 plus years just don't post much in the 35 as I do in my other favorite toy the LCS don't seem to have read to much from you though
BTW was not talking bout 4th hen fighters but rather against 5th and most likely 6th gen given its service life of around 70 years give or take just why do think there are studies underway for a 6th gen aircraft in the Air Force
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The Best Summary of the X32 Program I ever saw was a Comic strip from South Korea.Couldn't find a better theme.
Some beautiful renderings of "what if" production variant of F-32.
Quite a bird in it's proposed configuration, actually.
Half-stealth (c), though.(spoiler: no, it was expected to meet all signature requirements)
Lightning is certainly prettier, but quite interesting nevertheless.
X32 more than F35 would have lived up to the Compromises of S/VTOL. The "Smile" Was because the Direct lift system demanded the Engine be placed centrally for balancing the Center of Gravity of the Fighter. This compromised the Stealth of the fighter and also caused issues in VTOL trials where the Fighter kept suffering engine issues as it ingested it's own exhaust gases. farther more the Delta wing of the Fighter was heavier than wanted and limited maneuvering more than wanted by the Navy or Air force necessitating a redesign of the Tail and wings. It also meant that during the Vtol tests Boeing Stripped the Jet of parts to keep weight down preventing them from being able to Short take off, Fly super sonic and land Vertically where the Lockheed bird could. If this wasn't enough Boeing although having delivered there demonstrator first suffered as Lockheed Martin managed to get the X35 Air to Air refueling qualified well the Boeing Jet couldn't this meant that the X35 could stay in the air longer and get more test time where the boeing bird had to land and refuel.
Not to say the X35 was flawless it had a issue in trails to and Lockheed Martin had a cost overrun that the DOD forgave.
Stealth was not a concern, Boeing clearly had a solution in place (or they wouldn't get to prototype stage).
F-32 promised to be longer-legged(significantly) , more maneuverable in combat, cheaper and slightly smaller.
But yes, STOVL was just a mess all around, and prototypes weren't just troublesome, they weren't even representative of what they wanted to build.
Since the plan was to build one aircraft, it was this shafted fan who essentially won the deal to the Lockheed.
Boeing struggled just to meet basic requirement here, and Lighting not just worked, it just exceed it in everything.