09V/09VI (095/096) Nuclear Submarine Thread

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weig2000 said:
To be perfectly clear, it's a reflection of possible differences in our opinions towards where 688i stands in worldwide standards for nuclear submarines in his mind. I have seen some rather generous interpretation of what constitutes "international leading level" within the Chinese defense circle, although I'm not insisting that's necessarily what He Lin thinks (we simply don't know).

So until more evidence surfaces, that's how I interpret his statements.
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Wait, I'm confused, in He Lin's original statement did he mention 688i or any other submarine in any form?

Or putting it another way, is there a reason why we would expect He Lin to believe that 688i's noise level is at the "international leading level" either for today, or for the world of 2025?
 
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Bltizo said:
Wait, I'm confused, in He Lin's original statement did he mention 688i or any other submarine in any form?

Or putting it another way, is there a reason why we would expect He Lin to believe that 688i's noise level is at the "international leading level" either for today, or for the world of 2025?
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No, clearly, he did not. If he did, we wouldn't have this much discussion.

If there is still any confusion, I suggest we just leave it like that because any further discussion will become meaningless. I've said enough about this subject and thought my opinion was abundantly clear, any differences in opinion aside. His were some vague statements. That's all.
 
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No, clearly, he did not. If he did, we wouldn't have this much discussion.

If there is still any confusion, I suggest we just leave it like that because any further discussion will become meaningless. I've said enough about this subject and thought my opinion was abundantly clear, any differences in opinion aside. His were some vague statements. That's all.
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No problem, though the reason I insisted on this matter a bit is because to me, the idea of 688i being called international leading standard for SSNs either today or in 2025 is like calling F-15C international leading standard today or in 2025.
 
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Rumor time any validity to this news via JSch
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【再也不怕缠海带！中国无轴泵推技术成熟应用新型核潜艇】近日，央视在介绍未来国产非核动力航母将采用电磁弹射系统的话题时，突然话锋一转，称来自中国海军的好消息：中国海军已经接收了一艘新型核潜艇，该艇研制历时5年时间，采用了无轴泵推，且是比当今主流泵喷推进器更先进的无轴式结构。

Sina Military
March 26 at 15:02 From Weibo,
Recently, when CCTV introduced the subject of future non-nuclear-powered domestic aircraft carriers that will use electromagnetic catapult systems, it suddenly change subject and declared a good news from the Chinese Navy: The Chinese Navy has already received a new type of nuclear submarine. The development of this boat lasted for five years. It adopts shaftless pumpjet and is more advance than today's mainstream pumpjet propellers.
 
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Well the gigantic BSHIC facility is complete

Simultaneously 4 units can be built

This means Type 095 SSN and Type 096 SSBN

New generation of naval platforms

Type 055, new carriers and UUV
 
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【再也不怕缠海带！中国无轴泵推技术成熟应用新型核潜艇】近日，央视在介绍未来国产非核动力航母将采用电磁弹射系统的话题时，突然话锋一转，称来自中国海军的好消息：中国海军已经接收了一艘新型核潜艇，该艇研制历时5年时间，采用了无轴泵推，且是比当今主流泵喷推进器更先进的无轴式结构。

Sina Military
March 26 at 15:02 From Weibo,
Recently, when CCTV introduced the subject of future non-nuclear-powered domestic aircraft carriers that will use electromagnetic catapult systems, it suddenly change subject and declared a good news from the Chinese Navy: The Chinese Navy has already received a new type of nuclear submarine. The development of this boat lasted for five years. It adopts shaftless pumpjet and is more advance than today's mainstream pumpjet propellers.
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One of the best confirmation that I ever heard.

Congrats, so now Shaftless Pumpjet in China's New SSN is Confirmed !
 
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【再也不怕缠海带！中国无轴泵推技术成熟应用新型核潜艇】近日，央视在介绍未来国产非核动力航母将采用电磁弹射系统的话题时，突然话锋一转，称来自中国海军的好消息：中国海军已经接收了一艘新型核潜艇，该艇研制历时5年时间，采用了无轴泵推，且是比当今主流泵喷推进器更先进的无轴式结构。

Sina Military
March 26 at 15:02 From Weibo,
Recently, when CCTV introduced the subject of future non-nuclear-powered domestic aircraft carriers that will use electromagnetic catapult systems, it suddenly change subject and declared a good news from the Chinese Navy: The Chinese Navy has already received a new type of nuclear submarine. The development of this boat lasted for five years. It adopts shaftless pumpjet and is more advance than today's mainstream pumpjet propellers.
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Sorry, but this is nowhere near a confirmation. In fact, it's a re-hash of a few different rumors: the shaftless pumpjet, the commissioning of a new 093B submarine, and the interview with Prof. Ma; these rumors have been reported by many "news" agencies in the past and does not represent reality in any way.
 
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Daniel707 said:
One of the best confirmation that I ever heard.

Congrats, so now Shaftless Pumpjet in China's New SSN is Confirmed !
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No, not really. It's a conflation of a few different recent developments: the development of IEPS and shaftless pumpjet from Ma Weiming's interview and the launch/commissioning of a new type of nuclear submarine (rumored to be 093B), and is no evidence that the two are related in any way.
 
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