CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Deino

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Guys ... can we leave out politics, can we leave out the USN's CVNs in the SCS since they are irrelevant in a thread related to the Type 003 carrier.

Thanks,
Deino
 
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Gustaf Adolf

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Jeff Head said:
We have aspeculated regarding this on these boards for years.

We do not know for sure...but my own predictions have been:

Type 001 CV-16 STOBAR (Completed)
Type 001A CV-17 STOBAR Launched and ready for trials;

Type 002 #1 CATOBAR building
Type 002 #2 CATOBAR perhaps building but certainly will

Type 003 #1 CATOBAR to build
Type 003 #2 CATOBAR to build.

The two Type 001s (001 and 001A) are both STOBAR carriers built on the Russian Kuznetsov design.

The two Type 002 will definitely be full CATOBAR carriers, potentially conventional propulsion and potentially EMALs cats. Displacement about 80,000 tons.

The two Type 003 carriers will also be CATOBAR and be potentially nuclear powered with EMALS. Displacement potentially 90,000 tons

I still believe this to be accurate.

After this it will just depend on how many carriers the PLAN wants. I expect a total of six operational carriers, with the follow on carriers replacing the fiorst two STOBAR carriers as needed and being newer versions of Type 003.
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Which two types, if any, do you think China intends to build at the same time?
I think that the type 003 will be closer to 110,000 tons from what I read. You are correct about the number of carriers China wants, at least if the articles I read are correct. They said that China wants six carrier groups in 2030.

Deino said:
Guys ... can we leave out politics, can we leave out the USN's CVNs in the SCS since they are irrelevant in a thread related to the Type 003 carrier.

Thanks,
Deino
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I hope I don't break any rules asking a Mod a question, but isn't this thread about the type 002?
 
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Twix101

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What we call here Type 002 is potentially Type 003 according to official PLAN designation. Type 002 is officially what we call Type 001A here, so that leaves the next carrier to be 003 per logic.
 
Intrepid

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Twix101 said:
What we call here Type 002 is potentially Type 003 according to official PLAN designation. Type 002 is officially what we call Type 001A here, so that leaves the next carrier to be 003 per logic.
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We know that. But not everyone likes it, that's why there's always confusion.

It is better to call it
  • Liaoning
  • 2nd STOBAR
  • 1st CATOBAR
that is unmistakable
 
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Iron Man

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In no way can 4 carriers be active out of a total of 6 carriers, at least not on a routine basis. Out of 6 carriers you can at most expect 2 to be actively deployed at one time, with maybe one more surgeable within 30 days and one more within 90 days.
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Iron Man said:
In no way can 4 carriers be active out of a total of 6 carriers, at least not on a routine basis. Out of 6 carriers you can at most expect 2 to be actively deployed at one time, with maybe one more surgeable within 30 days and one more within 90 days.
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If 2 of those 6 are STOBAR then most definitely they can have 4 deployed
 
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asif iqbal said:
If 2 of those 6 are STOBAR then most definitely they can have 4 deployed
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What does the fact that they are STOBAR have to do with anything? They still have the same deployment, maintenance, and training cycles as CATOBAR carriers and will in fact have to be part of the same deployment rotation as the CATOBAR carriers.
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Iron Man said:
What does the fact that they are STOBAR have to do with anything? They still have the same deployment, maintenance, and training cycles as CATOBAR carriers and will in fact have to be part of the same deployment rotation as the CATOBAR carriers.
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No they do not

CATOBAR has cats for launch you do realise STOBAR is ski jump

The turnaround time is much higher for CATOBAR for obvious reasons as is the maintenance, it sucks maintenance

This is why UK will be able to deploy both carriers since they have ski jump this was one of the counter arguments at SDR to scrap Prince of Wales for Cats
 
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