Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)

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That's the supersonic variant, isn't it?
With its PESA radar it is an affordable and cost effective solution for budget constrained air forces.
Yes Light attack Aircraft or Lead-in fighter training (LIFT) variant interesting for these countries still less capable than a JF-17 true combattant...
Exist also same variants for Yak-130 and M-346 " cousins " but different arrangement for engines between Yak-130 and L-15
 

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Add to that different engine L15B is with after burner. L15 is with no afterburner. The L-15 version is powered by a pair of Ivchenko Progress AI-222K-25 jet engines, while the L-15B uses the AI-222K-25F.

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once co-production license is obtained by the 608 Institute. Ukraine company also developed a greater thrust of AI-222-28F (thrust 4500 kg) and AI-222-30F (5000 kg thrust) engine. The latter two may be introduced for the equipment and load up more L-15, of course, they may also be used to equip other aircraft in China.
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Yes Light attack Aircraft or Lead-in fighter training (LIFT) variant interesting for these countries still less capable than a JF-17 true combattant...
Exist also same variants for Yak-130 and M-346 " cousins " but different arrangement for engines between Yak-130 and L-15

I don't think Yak-130 and M-346 have PESA radar
 

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Add to that different engine L15B is with after burner. L15 is with no afterburner. The L-15 version is powered by a pair of Ivchenko Progress AI-222K-25 jet engines, while the L-15B uses the AI-222K-25F.

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once co-production license is obtained by the 608 Institute. Ukraine company also developed a greater thrust of AI-222-28F (thrust 4500 kg) and AI-222-30F (5000 kg thrust) engine. The latter two may be introduced for the equipment and load up more L-15, of course, they may also be used to equip other aircraft in China.
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in China? when?
 

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in China? when?
Yes and yes Motor Sich is moving part of the plant to Chongqing I bet they will localized the AI-222K-25F in the future in joint venture with Beijing Tianjiao Aviation Industry
I posted this news long time ago in Engine thread via Yusheng from Pakdef

Motor Sich is moving to Chongqing China now,
estimated that there will be more than 2000 Ukrain experts working in Chongqing in the near futrue
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According to Ukraine embassy in Beijing on June 6, 2017 website news, June 2, Ukraine's ambassador to China, Mr JiaoMing visit to chongqing, and chongqing leadership talks and visited chongqing tianjiao aviation industry base base (chongqing).JiaoMing ambassador said in talks with the chongqing leadership, the government of Ukraine for aviation engine project attaches great importance to bilateral cooperation, hope to continue to support in chongqing, make tianjiao project model of bilateral cooperation.Ukraine's state news agency and Ukraine other domestic media also reported the event.

chongqing aero engine base was established in 2015, Ukraine embassy official took part in foundation ceremony , this is the ambassador Jiao Ming second time visit , the ambassador came here again and was shocked by the sight.

Mr. JiaoMing praised engine base construction progress, said the construction progress beyond his imagination, such simply unthinkable in Ukraine.

On June 20th and 21st, the department of consular affairs deputy Liu Xu and chongqing vice mayor gui-ping liu met with Ukrainian officials related affairs.

Both sides negotiate a visa in China, the Ukrainian lengthen visa and consular protection problem, especially in chongqing.
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chongqing base:
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The article released some information never heard before;
Bilateral joint development of large wide-body passenger aircraft engine!
On May 31, in an interview with science and technology daily, Beijing tianjiao aviation industry investment co., LTD., innovation, vice President of the institute, the national "one thousand project" expert Wang Guangqiu.Of a new generation of aviation engine AI - 38 (China tianjiao airlines with Ukraine motor sich company based on D - 18 t engine).

CJ - 2000 and AI-38 thrust at about 30-34 tons.And AI - 38 derived type belongs to the new big bypass ratio engine, the prototype D - 18 t is famous for serving Ann - 225 and Ann - 124 two type conveyer for 22 years of "heart". AI-38 has three rotor structure, with high efficiency, small volume, light weight, etc.The latest news, bilateral joint engine manufacturing base in chongqing municipality has started to install test bed.

文章内之前从未有过的信息;中乌联合研制宽体大客机航空发动机!大运应该也能用。
5月31日,在接受科技日报记者采访时,北京天骄航空产业投资有限公司创新研究院副院长、国家“千人计划”专家王光秋。 中乌新一代航空发动机AI-38(中国天骄航空与乌克兰进步设计局、乌克兰马达西奇公司联合体共同在乌克兰D-18T发动机基础上研制开发)。CJ-2000和AI-38的推力约在30—34吨左右。 而中乌联合研制的AI-38属于衍生型新型大涵道比发动机,其原型机D-18T则是名震遐迩、已服役安-225及安-124两个型号运输机22年的“动力心脏”。乌克兰开发的大型涡扇发动机与罗罗公司的遄达系列发动机具有相同的三转子结构,具有效率高、体积小、重量轻等特点。最新消息,位于重庆的中乌联合发动机制造基地已开始安装试车台。

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2017年5月26日,国家工信部安全生产司副巡视员李维嘉一行到重庆天骄航空动力产业基地调研,并与公司领导座谈。天骄航空总裁杜涛、公司相关部门负责人陪同调研。

调研期间,杜涛总裁从企业概况、发展历程、项目进展等方面进行了汇报,其中重点介绍了重庆基地的安全生产工作开展情况。杜涛总裁介绍说,基地占地约7500亩,分为北、中、南3个区,2015年12月底开工建设,经过近一年半的时间,目前北区已经完成部分厂房的建设并即将交付使用,五年后基地将具备涡轴、涡桨、涡扇等多系列、多型号先进航空发动机研发、批产和维修保障能力。
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antiterror13

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There is a chance that the US might "block" the move to China with any reasons...... interesting what Ukraine would do if it is the case ?
 
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