Exported J-7

crobato said:

Camouflage patterns. Nice, you don't see that often with J-7s or J-8IIs.

Honestly I think these may not be J-7s but J-8IIs. Their nose seems a bit extended and their wings even more acutely swept.

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Thanks crobato. It would be good news if Zimbabwe has the J-8II. However, I have measured the planes there and they are much smaller than the J-8 in length.

Now, is you look at the 3 infront of the hanger, the second (middle plane), is that a missile beside the right wing?

pngwerume said:

This is on Google Earth, location 19°26'34.18"S 29°51'12.18"E. Looking at the two F-7s between the hangers, do they look different or is it that the resolution is not good enough? If they are different, can anybody indetify the two verisions? The one to the south seems to have a shorter wingspan.

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Nice pic, thanks for posting! Seems like those things are pretty serviceable. By the way, If you look at the bottom right-hand croner, there is what looks like a smaller plane next to the F-7s. Anyone know what it is? Probably a flight trainer.
J-8IIs tend to have much longer and slimmer fuselages., with the wings placed further at the back. The planes in the pic appear to have more stocky fuselages, like J-7s normally do.

10月23日下午，伴随两架崭新的FT-7NG飞机一次试飞安全着陆，总公司出口部客户服务代表陈飞代表中航技与纳米比亚空军Grootfontein基地司令正式签署了飞机交接证书。 Y\SUwY!
10月8日，出口部带领贵航飞机复装组赴纳米比亚执行飞机交付任务。复装组在总公司储运管理部和出口部的全力支持下，与代表处密切配合，充分发挥主观能动性，克服纳方经验不足，配套设施缺乏等种种困难，赶在连续暴雨发生之前圆满完成了复装试飞任务，赢得了纳米比亚空军对中方团队的高度赞赏。 ?a /$+
交付后，系统化的飞行培训工作即告开始。
2 F-7 delivered to Namibia. So, F-7s are still doing really well in the export market. I guess they are still going to have a make shift J-7 line even after this year. That will normally produce J-10s but will shift to J-7 when an export order comes in.

tphuang said:

10月23日下午，伴随两架崭新的FT-7NG飞机一次试飞安全着陆，总公司出口部客户服务代表陈飞代表中航技与纳米比亚空军Grootfontein基地司令正式签署了飞机交接证书。 Y\SUwY!
10月8日，出口部带领贵航飞机复装组赴纳米比亚执行飞机交付任务。复装组在总公司储运管理部和出口部的全力支持下，与代表处密切配合，充分发挥主观能动性，克服纳方经验不足，配套设施缺乏等种种困难，赶在连续暴雨发生之前圆满完成了复装试飞任务，赢得了纳米比亚空军对中方团队的高度赞赏。 ?a /$+
交付后，系统化的飞行培训工作即告开始。
2 F-7 delivered to Namibia. So, F-7s are still doing really well in the export market. I guess they are still going to have a make shift J-7 line even after this year. That will normally produce J-10s but will shift to J-7 when an export order comes in.

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Thanks for the post. Does it say FT-7NG? I take it the two are trainers? Meaning the bulk of the jets are still to follow? I have checked the specs for the F-7G, but have you got any info F7-NG?

pngwerume said:

Thanks for the post. Does it say FT-7NG? I take it the two are trainers? Meaning the bulk of the jets are still to follow? I have checked the specs for the F-7G, but have you got any info F7-NG?

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yeah, it does say that. I have a suspicions they have all been delivered, because Bangladesh ordered them later and already got them. The thing is, it seems like these F-7 and K-8 deals are signed without the public even knowing about them. As for specs, you can check the specs of F-7PG.

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I have stumbled across a bit more in on the 12 F-7s Zimbabwe got two years ago. Apparently F-7 MG. Yippee! Check the end of this article:

pngwerume, for your information, there's a nice article about Chinese fighter serving abroad:战绩辉煌却鲜为人知：中国战机海外服役全史
----Brilliant success but little recognized: full history of Chinese war plane serving abroad

You can find it online here:



This article was published in a well respected Chinese magazine 国际展望----international view. Actually the former Chinese president Jiang Zemin hand wrote the title of this magazine. There's a part about Zimbabwe:

津巴布韦 　　

1986年，津巴布韦空军接收了14架歼一7战斗机，组成了第5战斗机中队，代号“箭”。这14架歼一7包括12架歼一7II及歼一7IIN，以及2架歼教一7BZ。最初，这些歼-7主要由巴基斯坦飞行员驾驶，不久之后，津巴布韦空军就培养出了足够多有经验的飞行员，全面接替了巴基斯坦人。 　　

1998年，津巴布韦卷入了民主刚果共和国(刚果(金))内战，其陆军和空军战斗机参与了与民主刚果反政府军的作战。在战斗中歼一7的表现相当活跃。 　　

目前大约有6架歼一7在津巴布韦空军中服役，现在津巴布韦人急需要得到一种新的战斗机，而外界观察家普遍认为价格低廉但性能出色的JF-17很有可能赢得这笔合同。 　　

当前津巴布韦与巴基斯坦的关系密切，2005年7月16—20日，巴基斯坦空军总参谋长卡利姆-萨达特上将刚刚对津巴布韦进行了为期5天的访问，在这次访问中，萨达特表示要继续支援津巴布韦空军建设，包括向后者提供训练设备，并派出军官和技术人员以帮助训练津巴布韦飞行员和机械师。结合两个月前，巴基斯坦总理对马来西亚访问时表示将向后者提供JF—17样机以便后者评估的消息来看，萨达特上将的这次访问很有可能是为了向津巴布韦推荐JF-17。

Let me translate it for you:

Zimbabwe

In 1986, Zimbabwe Air Force recieved 14 J-7s and formed the 5th Fighter Squadron, code-named "Arrow." This includes 12 J-7II and J-7IIN, plus 2 TJ-7BZ. Initially, these J-7 fighters were manned by Pakistani pilots. Shortly afterwards, Zimbabwe Air Force trained a sufficient number of experienced pilots to take over the Pakistanis.

In 1998, Zimbabwe involved in the civil war of Democratic Republic of Congo (Congo (Kinshasa)). Her Army and Air Force fighters participated in the combats together with Congo(Kinshasa)'s anti-government force. J-7s were very active.

At present, there are approximately 6 J-7s serving in the Air Force of Zimbabwe, who urgently need a new type of fighters. Outside observers generally believe the JF-17 with low price and excellent performance is very likely to win the contract.

At present, Zimbabwe and Pakistan have very close relationship. During July 16-20 2005, Pakistan Air Force chief Karim Sadat had a five-day visit to Zimbabwe. During his visit, Sadat said they would continue to support the building of the Air Force of Zimbabwe, including the provision of training equipment and sending officers and technicians to help in training Zimbabwe personnels. Considering Pakistani Prime Minister's visit to Malaysia two months ago (that is June 2005----szbd), when he announced Pakistan will provide the JF-17 prototype for evaluation, General Sadat's visit to Zimbabwe is likely for marketing JF-17.

Thanks szbd. You are very kind.

Do you have any pictures of AFZ F-7s

mick black said:

Do you have any pictures of AFZ F-7s

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Very few and not the best quality photos. The white ones is the old colour scheme and lately they seem to have been repainted (or a later batch) with a two-tone scheme. In the photo dominated by the Il-76, there is an F-7 on the ground, between the 1st & 2nd officers from the left.

Numbers 730 & 731 are the two FT-7s they have.