China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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AndrewS

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There are currently 3 long range early warning radar sites that I am aware of. North, East and South. The fact of China having them is nothing new. The last time I read about it, it was about the south site, it was 2016. The first one was in the North (east) earlier than 2016.

Do you have the locations and directions for these?
 

subotai1

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Trump will enjoy it with the "nicest piece of chocolate cake ever." Remember how Trump was bragging about it to the press when he ordered the strike to Syria while he and Xi were having a nice dinner?

This will be Xi's "Hold my baijiu and watch this" moment. But it will be a DF-21 launched from thousands of kilometers away at a mockup of a US carrier.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Hypersonic wind tunnel test model of China’s hypersonic vehicle revealed
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China Central Television (CCTV) aired a special talked about the JF-12 hypersonic wind tunnel. This is the largest testing setup of its kind in the world and can produce air speeds up to Mach 9 thanks to its pulse detonation engine. There is also a test shape that looks like the DF-ZF hypersonic vehicle. There are also computer-generated renderings of a blended wing body aircraft or drone.

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Here is the video very interesting
 

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Here is another write up from our friend Bill Gertz
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China Reveals Images of New Hypersonic Strike Aircraft
Ultra high-speed vehicles shown for first time on state-run television

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November 8, 2017 2:10 pm

China has disclosed the first images of secret hypersonic strike aircraft that are being developed to deliver nuclear warheads through U.S. missile defenses.

State-run CCTV on Oct. 8 broadcast images of four different vehicles or missiles that U.S. intelligence agencies believe are mockups of hypersonic strike vehicles, including one known as DF-ZF.

It is the first time images of the hypersonic aircraft were made public.

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China's initial flight test of the hypersonic glider in January 2014. Since then, six other flight tests have been carried out in what U.S. intelligence officials believe is a high-priority weapons program for the Chinese.

China's Defense Ministry confirmed the first flight test nearly four years ago but sought to play down the arms development.

"Our planned scientific research tests conducted in our territory are normal," the ministry said in the statement. "These tests are not targeted at any country and at any specific goals."

U.S. officials have told Congress the initial use of the new hypersonic glider will be for delivering nuclear warheads through what China believes will be a future global U.S. missile defense shield directed against its missiles.

The most advanced hypersonic missile is the DF-ZF glider that is launched atop a ballistic missile and then glides to its target in near space. The glider is capable of maneuvering at speeds of between Mach 5 and Mach 10—3,836 miles per hour and 7,672 miles per hour, respectively.

Such high speeds require special materials and electronics capable of withstanding the high temperatures and pressures created by those velocities.

The Oct. 8 broadcast reported on China's development of a hypersonic wind tunnel that is used for testing the high-speed strike vehicles. The test system is located in Beijing and is known as the JF12 shock wave wind tunnel. A technician from the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Jiang Zonglin, told CCTV the tunnel is comparable to an unspecified "renowned" U.S. wind tunnel.

Jiang said the JF12 "has reached the world's advanced level" and is capable of revealing many issues U.S. researchers have yet to discover about hypersonic flight.

According to Jiang, tests at the JF12 are conducted every two days and the facility will be operating at full capacity through the end of the year.

China expects to increase the speed of next generation hypersonic vehicles past the current Mach 5 limit, the report said.

The broadcast showed three hypersonic vehicles over various shapes, including a triangular-shaped glider, and one weapon that appeared similar in shape to the last stage of a ballistic missile.
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The report also included images of the JF12 that stated the tunnel creates wind speeds of between Mach 5 and Mach 10 and uses a nozzle diameter of 8.2 feet. The test duration is 100 milliseconds.

The Pentagon's 2013 annual report on the Chinese military mentioned the JF12 wind tunnel as a development of the China Academy of Sciences' Institute of Mechanics.

The Institute announced in May 2012 that it began hypersonic testing of the super-large wind tunnel that China claimed is the largest in the world.

Air Force Gen. John Hyten, commander of the Strategic Command, said in July he is worried about the development of hypersonic missiles by China and Russia. The United States is also pursuing the weaponry, he said.

"Hypersonic technology is concerning to me, but it's really no more concerning to me than any cruise missile technology, any ballistic missile technology," Hyten said. "We have to be prepared to defend ourselves against all those threats. And we have to have a deterrent that is ready to respond in case any of those break out."

The National Air and Space Intelligence Center stated in a report made public last summer that hypersonic glide vehicles are a new class of weapons and an emerging threat. Hypersonic missiles "are maneuverable vehicles that travel at hypersonic (greater than Mach 5) speed and spend most of their flight at much lower altitudes than a typical ballistic missile," the report said. "The combination of high speed, maneuverability, and relatively low altitude makes them challenging targets for missile defense systems," the report added, noting they are currently being developed by Russia and China.

Congress last year passed legislation requiring the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency to create a dedicated program aimed at countering hypersonic missile threats.

An Air Force-sponsored study warned last year that the United States is falling behind in the emerging hypersonic arms race.

"The People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation are already flight-testing high-speed maneuvering weapons that may endanger both forward-deployed U.S. forces and even the continental United States," the study said. "These weapons appear to operate in regimes of speed and altitude, with maneuverability that could frustrate existing missile defense constructs and weapon capabilities."

The growing threat of hypersonic arms is said by U.S. officials to be part of two major Pentagon studies that are nearing completion. One is the nuclear posture review that will include an examination of strategic threats to the United States posed by hypersonic nuclear delivery vehicles. A second is a review of strategic missile defenses that are being challenged by new hypersonic and other maneuvering missiles.

Rick Fisher, a China weapons expert with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the Chinese television broadcast confirms reports about the new high-technology weapons development.

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"This CCTV show provides additional validation that China is developing hypersonic maneuverable reentry vehicles (MaRVs) that some PLA experts suggest in the future may also be launched from PLA navy ships to attack U.S. Navy ships."

"The delta shape may be a generic test model or it could indicate the shape of an early PLA MaRV warhead."

China's development of high-speed maneuvering warheads is a high threat because "this type of warhead is much more difficult to intercept with current U.S. missile defenses," Fisher said.

Three years ago, Lee Fuell, an intelligence analyst with the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, told Congress China's hypersonic glider appears designed for nuclear weapons.

"At this point, we think that's associated with their nuclear deterrent forces," Fuell said. "Of great concern would be if they were to apply the same technology and capability with a conventional warhead or even just without a warhead because of the kinetic energy that it has."

In addition to an unpowered glider, China also is developing a scramjet-powered hypersonic missile. A Chinese technical publication reported in May that a breakthrough was made in development of a ramjet engine for hypersonic missiles.

The CCTV broadcast on the hypersonic missiles was first reported by the online newsletter "The War Zone" on Tuesday.
 

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Hu Xijin, chief editor of the Chinese government’s bellicose mouthpiece Global Times, has caused yet another stir among his readers with an exposé of the country’s next-generation “super” intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) – Dongfeng-41.

Hu said on his blog that he had seen a real Dongfeng-41 during a recent trip to the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, the bastion of Beijing’s aerospace and air-defense buildup that has just celebrated its 60th anniversary.

Hu’s blog could be further confirmation that China is about to deploy a super-ICBM that might make Washington and its allies antsy.

Dongfeng-41’s predecessor, Dongfeng-31A, a road-mobile, three-stage, solid-fuel rocket, was once touted as capable of hitting targets anywhere across the North Hemisphere with a range of 11,500 kilometers, making targets in the contiguous United States easily reachable. With a warhead for single or multiple 1-megaton thermonuclear weapons, it’s at present the buttress of the People’s Liberation Army’s strategic nuclear deterrent.


Dongfeng-31A ICBMs. Photo: Xinhua
On the military parade marking the 90th anniversary of the founding of the PLA this August, a new DF-31AG, with a range of 13,000km, was unveiled for the first time.

Now the guessing game is on as to the might of China’s next-generation ICBMs, rumored to be named Dongfeng-41.

Hu quoted an anonymous source as saying that the super-ICBM was nearing the end of tests, and other than further enhancements to its maneuverability, range – no less than 14,000km – and staged propulsion system, the major breakthrough was a new warhead design that can house six to 10 miniaturized nuclear bombs, so a single Dongfeng-41 missile would be able to “destroy an entire belligerent country.”

Dongfeng-41 also uses penetration aids such as decoys or chaff and maneuverable re-entry vehicles to complicate and pierce through its enemy’s missile warning and defense system.

A separate report by Chinese news patrol Sina suggests a new variant of Dongfeng-41 can traverse 15,000km and hit New York City within 21 minutes from launch from its base in central China’s Henan province, and its top cruising speed can exceed 30,000km/h.

Other sources reveal that the PLA may have already developed a new transporter erector launcher system that can fire Dongfeng-41 from a train, taking advantage of the nation’s sprawling high-speed railway network to give a big boost to speed of response and maneuverability.

Hu said the world would not have to wait for too long before Beijing officially acknowledges the full deployment of its war-ready Dongfeng-41 missiles.
 

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Super ICBM’s full deployment ‘very soon,’ paper says
A new multi-nuke warhead design means a single Dongfeng-41 missile would be able to 'destroy an entire belligerent country'
By ASIA TIMES STAFF NOVEMBER 17, 2017 4:28 PM

Hu Xijin, chief editor of the Chinese government’s bellicose mouthpiece Global Times, has caused yet another stir among his readers with an exposé of the country’s next-generation “super” intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) – Dongfeng-41.

Hu said on his blog that he had seen a real Dongfeng-41 during a recent trip to the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, the bastion of Beijing’s aerospace and air-defense buildup that has just celebrated its 60th anniversary.

Hu’s blog could be further confirmation that China is about to deploy a super-ICBM that might make Washington and its allies antsy.

Dongfeng-41’s predecessor, Dongfeng-31A, a road-mobile, three-stage, solid-fuel rocket, was once touted as capable of hitting targets anywhere across the North Hemisphere with a range of 11,500 kilometers, making targets in the contiguous United States easily reachable. With a warhead for single or multiple 1-megaton thermonuclear weapons, it’s at present the buttress of the People’s Liberation Army’s strategic nuclear deterrent.

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Dongfeng-31A ICBMs. Photo: Xinhua
On the military parade marking the 90th anniversary of the founding of the PLA this August, a new DF-31AG, with a range of 13,000km, was unveiled for the first time.

Now the guessing game is on as to the might of China’s next-generation ICBMs, rumored to be named Dongfeng-41.

Hu quoted an anonymous source as saying that the super-ICBM was nearing the end of tests, and other than further enhancements to its maneuverability, range – no less than 14,000km – and staged propulsion system, the major breakthrough was a new warhead design that can house six to 10 miniaturized nuclear bombs, so a single Dongfeng-41 missile would be able to “destroy an entire belligerent country.”

Dongfeng-41 also uses penetration aids such as decoys or chaff and maneuverable re-entry vehicles to complicate and pierce through its enemy’s missile warning and defense system.

A separate report by Chinese news patrol Sina suggests a new variant of Dongfeng-41 can traverse 15,000km and hit New York City within 21 minutes from launch from its base in central China’s Henan province, and its top cruising speed can exceed 30,000km/h.

Other sources reveal that the PLA may have already developed a new transporter erector launcher system that can fire Dongfeng-41 from a train, taking advantage of the nation’s sprawling high-speed railway network to give a big boost to speed of response and maneuverability.

Hu said the world would not have to wait for too long before Beijing officially acknowledges the full deployment of its war-ready Dongfeng-41 missiles.
 

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From AT. Interesting development
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Super ICBM’s full deployment ‘very soon,’ paper says
A new multi-nuke warhead design means a single Dongfeng-41 missile would be able to 'destroy an entire belligerent country'
By ASIA TIMES STAFF NOVEMBER 17, 2017 4:28 PM

Hu Xijin, chief editor of the Chinese government’s bellicose mouthpiece Global Times, has caused yet another stir among his readers with an exposé of the country’s next-generation “super” intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) – Dongfeng-41.

Hu said on his blog that he had seen a real Dongfeng-41 during a recent trip to the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, the bastion of Beijing’s aerospace and air-defense buildup that has just celebrated its 60th anniversary.

Hu’s blog could be further confirmation that China is about to deploy a super-ICBM that might make Washington and its allies antsy.

Dongfeng-41’s predecessor, Dongfeng-31A, a road-mobile, three-stage, solid-fuel rocket, was once touted as capable of hitting targets anywhere across the North Hemisphere with a range of 11,500 kilometers, making targets in the contiguous United States easily reachable. With a warhead for single or multiple 1-megaton thermonuclear weapons, it’s at present the buttress of the People’s Liberation Army’s strategic nuclear deterrent.

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Dongfeng-31A ICBMs. Photo: Xinhua
On the military parade marking the 90th anniversary of the founding of the PLA this August, a new DF-31AG, with a range of 13,000km, was unveiled for the first time.

Now the guessing game is on as to the might of China’s next-generation ICBMs, rumored to be named Dongfeng-41.

Hu quoted an anonymous source as saying that the super-ICBM was nearing the end of tests, and other than further enhancements to its maneuverability, range – no less than 14,000km – and staged propulsion system, the major breakthrough was a new warhead design that can house six to 10 miniaturized nuclear bombs, so a single Dongfeng-41 missile would be able to “destroy an entire belligerent country.”

Dongfeng-41 also uses penetration aids such as decoys or chaff and maneuverable re-entry vehicles to complicate and pierce through its enemy’s missile warning and defense system.

A separate report by Chinese news patrol Sina suggests a new variant of Dongfeng-41 can traverse 15,000km and hit New York City within 21 minutes from launch from its base in central China’s Henan province, and its top cruising speed can exceed 30,000km/h.

Other sources reveal that the PLA may have already developed a new transporter erector launcher system that can fire Dongfeng-41 from a train, taking advantage of the nation’s sprawling high-speed railway network to give a big boost to speed of response and maneuverability.

Hu said the world would not have to wait for too long before Beijing officially acknowledges the full deployment of its war-ready Dongfeng-41 missiles.


China should definitely accelerate its investment and research in Nuclear deterrence. I hope the DF41 gets into service soon. Despite fielding such a large Military, the PRCs Nuclear deterrence is smaller than France, which is definitely not acceptable for a Nation the size of China.
 

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China should definitely accelerate its investment and research in Nuclear deterrence. I hope the DF41 gets into service soon. Despite fielding such a large Military, the PRCs Nuclear deterrence is smaller than France, which is definitely not acceptable for a Nation the size of China.
Super ICBM’s full deployment ‘very soon

Nothing new yet 2 Brigades are equiped since at less several months, i have posted.

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Henri K also do a post mentioning the Bde near Russia
 

Hendrik_2000

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China should definitely accelerate its investment and research in Nuclear deterrence. I hope the DF41 gets into service soon. Despite fielding such a large Military, the PRCs Nuclear deterrence is smaller than France, which is definitely not acceptable for a Nation the size of China.

Nobody know the inventory of China's nuclear warhead The often quoted number by western analyst could be wrong by wide margin.
Western Intelligence is completely shut out when it come to warhead number
China has been building underground great wall for 40 years and still going It is easily the largest ever construction project in PRC. Sometime we have glimpse of its activity like in this video of mass wedding for
China's Second Artillery Corps - 96608 Trooper Rocket Army 99 Brings Salute to National Flag
 
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