The way you phrased it makes it sound like a male enhancement commercial lol.
That said, I wonder if Sukhoi will address some of the issues in Su-57 block II. It will receive a more potent engine after all.
Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)
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The way you phrased it makes it sound like a male enhancement commercial lol.
That said, I wonder if Sukhoi will address some of the issues in Su-57 block II. It will receive a more potent engine after all.
Among world's 4 largest air forces, only 1(ok, now perhaps 2) unconditionally believe in stealth.
Because stealth is only a part of survivability equation.
Well I'd say all countries with F-35 believe in stealth being a overwhelming factor in this survivability equation. Not to mention the effectiveness equation. Not to mention China, USA, and Russia all believe in it to pursue 5th gen with VLO. The evidence is in the desire to build internal bays into these new fighters. Japan believed in it so much they demanded to be allowed to buy the F-22 at enormous prices. Korea, Turkey, and Indonesia all want to build their stealthy next gen fighters as well. I think this is evidence enough what you said is untrue. Perhaps it fits with your view of how this all works but it is definitely wrong.
Sorry about that,,, that was NOT my intent, everything, and I do mean everything in aviation design is a compromise... just take fuel... if you wanted to fly around the world non-stop??? (Dick Rutan and Gina something did it!), you've got to build your aircraft around your fuel tanks,,, that means you're going to end up with Larger fuel tanks, and a much larger aircraft than you would normally prefer to build..
It will be performance limited for the horsepower,,, take off roll will be very long, and "blah",
"blah", "blah"?
the Russians built an aircraft with the speed and maneuverability of the F-22,,, but because they didn't own an F-119,,, they had to make some changes, which they did,, now it has OVT, it is indeed super-maneuverable,, but in order to achieve that performance, they sacrificed the size of the weapons bays, and the load they will carry? as well as the potential RCS reduction they might have achieved..
They have built a very neat and extremely attractive aircraft,, its fast and maneuverable, like a Ferrari, but it still has a very small trunk, and NO room for the kids!
Good analogy. It's a Ferrari that will have a rubbish engine when everyone else has an M5 and GS-F. I'm certain the guys in China knew their program was going to be less than ideal. They poached many of their best engineers already and have Lockheed Martin blueprints. They knew in advance Russia did not have the components of various techniques required to actually manufacture stealthy airframes. Russian manufacturing has always been very weak compared to the west and China adopted soviet manufacturing in the early days. History taught them Russian manufacturing was rubbish. They had to get the Japanese to build their submarine turbines back during the height of their industrial power.
Russians had the brains and the theory but many of their great engineering accomplishments were done by brute force. Even today's Mig-29 has a roughness in its build that surprises everyone.
Russians had the brains and the theory but many of their great engineering accomplishments were done by brute force. Even today's Mig-29 has a roughness in its build that surprises everyone.
Most countries with F-35 will eat what they're given.
Nothing more, nothing less.
But among countries with some choice(or necessity) only USAF willingly goes in "as stealthy as possible" directio, including compromising many other specsto a significant degree.
Other 3(USN, RUAF and PLAAF) have different views(and USN one was kind of forced on them during 1990s).
Sure. And you know this how? Seems to me like most of these countries do have choices. They can pull out, they didn't invest all that much. F-35 is entirely American. They purchased the political goodwill already with their investments but they are more than free to pull out, get Typhoons, Rafales, Gripens, and legacy fighters if everyone is so confident in stealth still being a scam. I'm sure stealth is far less effective against countries like Russia and China who have been actively developing methods and equipment to counter it. But against the rest of the world, it is extremely effective. Even against the handful of military powers, stealth is a great asset to have and certainly considered worthy of long and expensive development programs. How do you explain China's mass production of J-20?
You continue making senseless statements with no backing. Kremlin has been feeding the west all this US bogeyman nonsense for a decade now. The political struggle between these three nations are unfortunate but a reality of what's happening in the world. As much as some of us may believe in the Russians being the saviour of humanity like they want us to believe, the anti-F35 propaganda from Russia is so easy to see through with just a small application of logic and common sense.
Jura The idiot
General
actually in Internet I've seen texts about quote unquote Stealth Mafia
LOL no links on this very special occasion
LOL no links on this very special occasion
b787
Captain
if you see the AA-12 is not a big missile, by the way there is something called folded wings
the bays are not shallow,
Because the missiles have small diameter, around 20-40 cm
add to the small diameter the folded wings and you get enough missiles
See without folding wings the AA-11 is 40 cm diameter with wings not folded, so basically i highly recommend you read more.
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