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vincent said:

Two minutes of google search

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On October 22, 1992, she left Sydney Harbour and headed for Shanghai to gather intelligence on the Chinese navy, especially its new submarines
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It would not be easy to stay unseen and undetected while barely submerged and trying to collect intelligence, and the consequences of detection could be grave for the submarine's crew and for Australia-China relations.
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But the patrol proved a nightmare, with the harbour crowded with fishing boats, many trailing long fishing lines and nets.

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Janiz said:

Australian mindset was pretty much portrayed in the last submarine contract. It was like:

Navy: 'Late's get the latest state of art submarine that's out there!'
Government: 'Threre's only French, German, Spanish and Japanese offer.'
N: 'We'll take what's the most advanced and suited weapon from those offers!'
G: 'OK, you have a free hand!'

after some time of taking the best offer from RAN side:

N: 'OK, we decided, Japanese subs are state of art ones with best capabilities for our requirements. We would be thankful for choosing those ones!'
G: 'OK, that's for granted - best capability for our requirements and the best ones we could get - after all - we would be at best two years behind the best technology out there in our use after all! That's worth it!'

Two days before it's announced (and many thousands of AUD offered to those who decided after...):

French guy: 'We'll build the best subs that haven't been out to sea yet but with our best tested 90's technology as we can't do anything above it and with that technological margin it's safe for us to build those in Australia as even if there are Chinese spies they're still some 20 years behind. Those should be perfect for you!'
G (after taking some chamapgne and money from French side): We should get the French ones after all! And with that 20 years behind tech we should be able to construct those in 'our' shipyards so that that the workplaces should be saved!!!

There's nothing wrong with them being blamed. After all they became a tool for the politicians that take various forms of bribes from abroad. But it's bad for RAN after all.

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US submarine joins Japanese, Australian counterparts for trilateral drills

The US and Royal Australian Navy sent their submarines to waters south of Japan where the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) hosted a trilateral submarine competition (SUBCOMP) exercise from September 12 to 19.

Japan deployed four submarines to the exercise while the US Navy participated with Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Key West (SSN 722) and Royal Australian Navy with HMAS Dechaineux (SSG 76).

The SUBCOMP exercise provided an opportunity to further the integration and trilateral coordination in an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) environment for the three navies.

The competition stressed each crew’s ability to conduct various aspects of ASW. The top performer is recognized with the Japanese Battle Efficiency Award.

“We’re honored to participate in this year’s JMSDF Submarine Competition,” said Cmdr. Dan Sutherland, Dechaineux’s commanding officer. “This is our first opportunity to participate and I’m looking forward to future exercises with the JMSDF and the U.S. Navy.

During the exercise, a JMSDF officer embarked Key West.

“Embarking a JMSDF officer provided valuable insight into diesel submarine operations and tactics,” said Hill. “I highly recommend continuing this practice during future SUBCOMP exercises.”

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vincent said:

I'm more thinking in term of the overall buildup of the Aussie navy. It is weird for countries like Australia and Canada to spend a huge amount of money on limited power projection

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Lethe said:

The Asia-Pacific region is probably the most dynamic in the world today. The rise of China, India, Indonesia -- these developments affect Australia moreso than almost any other western country. I think it is entirely reasonable for Australia to take a keen interest in its regional environment, in order to protect our interests and to shape that environment according to our interests. In service of these goals, modest increases in military spending and changes in force structure should come as little surprise.

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abc123 said:

I have a feeling that Australia talks about China, but looks at Indonesia actually. At least, I would...

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abc123 said:

I have a feeling that Australia talks about China, but looks at Indonesia actually. At least, I would...

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abc123 said:

I have a feeling that Australia talks about China, but looks at Indonesia actually. At least, I would...

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Lethe said:

In Australia today, China has a high profile both within the establishment and in public conversation. Indonesia also has a fairly high profile within the establishment, but a much more modest one in public conversation.

In this case I think the appearance that Australia gives more attention to China than to Indonesia is both correct and appropriate. That is not to say that Indonesia is unimportant -- far from it -- but in the medium-term the implications of Indonesia's rise for Australia are dwarfed by the implications of China's rise.

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Lethe said:

In Australia today, China has a high profile both within the establishment and in public conversation. Indonesia also has a fairly high profile within the establishment, but a much more modest one in public conversation.

In this case I think the appearance that Australia gives more attention to China than to Indonesia is both correct and appropriate. That is not to say that Indonesia is unimportant -- far from it -- but in the medium-term the implications of Indonesia's rise for Australia are dwarfed by the implications of China's rise.

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