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"That study for an anti-missile warship is running silently while Paris and Rome seek to defuse a dispute over STX.
The "fairly discreet" study would set out the warship's architecture and be delivered by 2019 after three years of work, the source said. The anti-missile weapon would be the long-range Aster Block 1 NT missile, and Leonardo would also work on the system. "
(Pierre Tran and Tom Kington, "Rome and Paris might design their own anti-missile frigate", Defense News, September 14, 2017)
It would be necessary to understand that Mr. Bruno Le Maire, Minister of the Economy, is putting on the negotiating table the modernization of the PAAMS program within the framework of the decisions already taken with a view to defining a common standard for Horizon frigates (4 vessels) and DM FREMMs (4 vessels). Renewal of the PAAMS which affects as much the radars as the C2 ("The idea is to have a European Aegis combat management system"). The common munition is the Aster Block 1 NT. The "concept-ship" would materialize in one of the last four FREMM of DA to be placed on hold between 2016 (Alsace) and 2018 (Emilio Bianchi) for commissioning between 2020 and 2022.
The rivalry between Leonardo and Thales about the sensors would inform us about the future nautical qualities of the FREMM of DA. The air defense radar, placed at the top, is an extremely structuring feature of the entire platform because the "ship beam" must be able to remain stable in all its maneuvers with a radar of several tons very high above the water. "The radar would be a key factor in ballistic missile defense as the shipborne system would detect, track and target the incoming missile in the ascent, cruise and descent internships, a naval specialist said. , so a higher performing radar would need more power generation and cooling systems, leading to a heavier warship. "
This suggests very strongly, if not exclusively, the use of a planar radar because the threat must be able to be monitored continuously. The SeaFire 500 is undersized to deal with this threat when the antenna-turning Herakles radar "boosted" would no longer be viable. Leonardo and Thales compete against two different masters in the respective applications of Fincantieri and Naval group for tenders in Canada and Australia.
Moreover, it should not be forgotten that the Exocet Block III will be replaced by vertically launched FMAN / FMC (FC / ASW). As a result, the eight ammunition usually shipped behind the bridge will have to be in the silos of the front beach in the future. This does not plead for 32 silos but from 48 to 64. The FREMM-ER presented in Canada has 48 silos after elongation of the hull a few meters when a Horizon has 48 silos with a reserve to install 16 additional launchers. Without neglecting the future since this policy orientation for the DAMB invites to consider the possibility that the Aster Block 2 is launched or not.
We would head for a frigate of 7000 tons and more at full load - as much as a Horizon. Fincantieri and DCNS are opening a space in which the last four FREMMs of the Aquitaine and Carlo Bergamini classes could benefit from the same specifications. A series construction in a single yard or in two different yards (one half of each vessel machined in the two countries, common construction of the blocks) is conceivable. The Italian FREMMs move up to 6700 tons at full load, 700 more than the French FREMMs. It remains the question of the available power: will it be sufficient with the turbine LM 2500 G4 + to satisfy both the propulsion and the weapons? At a later date, there will be the question of the redesign of the four Horizon frigates under the renovated PAAMS. This would involve designing, in particular, superstructures that could be transposed to the three classes of vessels."
"The information proposed by Defense news must be contextualized between the reflections on the naval aspect of the DAMB around the Aster Block 1 NT which should gather at sea British, Italians and French. On the other hand, it is far from insignificant that the "FREMM ASM to the reinforced air defense capacities" of France benefit from 2017.77 million euros (annex Defense of the Draft Law of Finances (PLF) 2017, p. 430). Even less harmless than we are then at the second attempt of Fincantieri to acquire the Chantiers de l'Atlantique (2014) while secret negotiations with DCNS for "enhanced cooperation" between the two companies (2015) .
"That study for an anti-missile warship is running silently while Paris and Rome seek to defuse a dispute over STX.
The "fairly discreet" study would set out the warship's architecture and be delivered by 2019 after three years of work, the source said. The anti-missile weapon would be the long-range Aster Block 1 NT missile, and Leonardo would also work on the system. "
(Pierre Tran and Tom Kington, "Rome and Paris might design their own anti-missile frigate", Defense News, September 14, 2017)
It would be necessary to understand that Mr. Bruno Le Maire, Minister of the Economy, is putting on the negotiating table the modernization of the PAAMS program within the framework of the decisions already taken with a view to defining a common standard for Horizon frigates (4 vessels) and DM FREMMs (4 vessels). Renewal of the PAAMS which affects as much the radars as the C2 ("The idea is to have a European Aegis combat management system"). The common munition is the Aster Block 1 NT. The "concept-ship" would materialize in one of the last four FREMM of DA to be placed on hold between 2016 (Alsace) and 2018 (Emilio Bianchi) for commissioning between 2020 and 2022.
The rivalry between Leonardo and Thales about the sensors would inform us about the future nautical qualities of the FREMM of DA. The air defense radar, placed at the top, is an extremely structuring feature of the entire platform because the "ship beam" must be able to remain stable in all its maneuvers with a radar of several tons very high above the water. "The radar would be a key factor in ballistic missile defense as the shipborne system would detect, track and target the incoming missile in the ascent, cruise and descent internships, a naval specialist said. , so a higher performing radar would need more power generation and cooling systems, leading to a heavier warship. "
This suggests very strongly, if not exclusively, the use of a planar radar because the threat must be able to be monitored continuously. The SeaFire 500 is undersized to deal with this threat when the antenna-turning Herakles radar "boosted" would no longer be viable. Leonardo and Thales compete against two different masters in the respective applications of Fincantieri and Naval group for tenders in Canada and Australia.
Moreover, it should not be forgotten that the Exocet Block III will be replaced by vertically launched FMAN / FMC (FC / ASW). As a result, the eight ammunition usually shipped behind the bridge will have to be in the silos of the front beach in the future. This does not plead for 32 silos but from 48 to 64. The FREMM-ER presented in Canada has 48 silos after elongation of the hull a few meters when a Horizon has 48 silos with a reserve to install 16 additional launchers. Without neglecting the future since this policy orientation for the DAMB invites to consider the possibility that the Aster Block 2 is launched or not.
We would head for a frigate of 7000 tons and more at full load - as much as a Horizon. Fincantieri and DCNS are opening a space in which the last four FREMMs of the Aquitaine and Carlo Bergamini classes could benefit from the same specifications. A series construction in a single yard or in two different yards (one half of each vessel machined in the two countries, common construction of the blocks) is conceivable. The Italian FREMMs move up to 6700 tons at full load, 700 more than the French FREMMs. It remains the question of the available power: will it be sufficient with the turbine LM 2500 G4 + to satisfy both the propulsion and the weapons? At a later date, there will be the question of the redesign of the four Horizon frigates under the renovated PAAMS. This would involve designing, in particular, superstructures that could be transposed to the three classes of vessels."
