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Lieutenant General
JJ Abrams directing Star Wars episode IX.
It's gonna have a later release date as well, instead of May of 2019 it will December of 2019. It has do with the story with Princess Leia or General Leia (Carrie Fisher's character) whom plays a significant role in Episoded IX, but her untimely death makes it difficult. I think that's why Lucasfilm is going back JJ Abrams for it.

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AssassinsMace

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Interesting how after Force Awakens premiered, no one could dare speak ill of the movie...

They should really give Dave Filoni a chance to direct a live action Star Wars movie. If the Rebels Season 2 finale was a live action Star Wars movie, it would've been the best Star Wars movie ever. But maybe not this Star Wars trilogy. Stay away from the Abramsverse.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I just watched the latest episode of The Orville. They're really dealing with moralistic questions...? The show could've been the honest trailers of TV sci-fi. It's suppose to be a comedy-drama. Do one or the other not both. I guess Seth McFarlane when a kid dreamed of being a starship captain.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
So Star Trek... happened on sunday.... You know what it was not Discovery, that happens this weekend. Star Trek:Discovery Shenzhou.
It's had mixed emotions on the fans and hit the franchise like a Photon Torpedo to gut.
trying to keep as few spoilers as possible
Yet it seems to have CBS's confidence as they have greenlit atleast 15 episodes. the First two episodes are not what I call Star Safe Trek. Orville is Safe Trek that is to say that if you love that 24th century utopia of TNG season 1 that is where you should be. nore is this in line to the harder edges of later TNG ,DS9 or Voyager that the JJ films kinda touch on.
Even the JJ films are safer trek then this.
The series pacing is a bit on the slow side, but once it gets going it's very interesting. This new trek is not aimed like the previous iterations and the first two Episodes are actually one movie.
First This is not quite Prime, they made a huge series of changes that in some ways I think the fan fear was right and TNG,DS9,Voyager have kinda been booted. this is leaning on Star Trek Enterprise as a Prequel and Star Trek as the Sequel although how they evolve very modern into retro is going to be interesting.
The Shinzou is stated as an old ship. The Enterprise 1701 that we know from the TOS was commissioned in 2245 ( The enterprise seen in ST 09 was commissioned in 2258) Both ships would represent newer ships then the Shenzhou and presumably the Discovery.
the date of Star trek DiscoveryShenzhou is stardate 1207.3 or 2256 May 11 a Sunday.

Michelle Yeoh is a very good captain I like her style and heart. Martin is a roller coaster as her character Michael Burnham is a Roller coaster and the show will be. and the Klingons are developing very differently.

First The Klingons are not your daddies Klingons or your dad's Klingons. They are using the same language but there style from there looks to there tech have been shifted.
They have Worfs Ridges but not his Mane.
They are more alien and aggressive With bigger ships and more tech. These are not TOS or TNG/DS9/Voyager or even JJ Klingons. Although they take features from all of them. which is both a blessing and a curse. These are Klingons of an Empire that seems to be at the edge of collapse with a century of civil war with the main Klingon leads being those fighting to pull the empire together and against the Federation. The lead Klingon Character T'Kuvma is something of a cult leader he Aims to unify the empire against the Federation. Although he has enemies and rivals. like members of the Klingon high Council.

Starfleet.
This is a starfleet more in line with ENT, there ships have features from all the previous iterations including the JJ films. both good and bad.
The Federation has expanded after the end of the Romulan war with limited contact to the warring Empire of the Klingons or the introverted Romulans. Limited but not complete the Klingons and Federation have had border skirmishes "Terror Raids".
The lead on this Michael Burnham is a young commander in starfleet whom is the center of the Federation side of the story apparently the ward of Sarek and a survivor of one Klingon raid.

Encounters between an Expansionist Federation and a Territorial and inherently Expansionist Klingon Empire will of course lead to only one possible outcome. especially if the Klingons can unify from their internal conflicts.

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Production.
Sets and Visual effects are top of the line. they borrow from established trek design but also change. This is not a JJ film, the JJ movies have a way of taking the TOS round and 60's aesthetic and blending it with the ultra modern. This is doing some of that but where a Kelvin Star trek would use white this uses dark grey.
On Space shots this is actually more realistic to a degree with many ships being almost black in shadow.
Traditionally Star Trek, Star wars, BSG, and Orville employ cheats on this all over the place.
The Show employed a number of technologies not available in the 60's or 90's to early 2000's
3D printing was used in costumes and props. CBS put a real budget in this and Living Dead Guy Productions put a lot of work in this.
For hard purists well... many a TV were replaced on Monday morning. This was not Axanar or Star Trek Continues which aimed to be the TOS Star trek.

Next week I will be watching Star Trek Discovery
 

vesicles

Colonel
This is stupid. We can't watch it unless we pay extra (yes, most of us are already paying to watch CBS channels through our normal cable/satellite subscription). That's just bull.

I can understand that CBS wants to promote their own streaming service. Then don't put it on Netflix at all. Now they've decided to put it on Netflix, excluding the US and Canada.

what's the difference between Netflix in the US/Canada and the rest of the world? It's a subscription based streaming service. If I am a member, that means I have paid for it. I'm sure CBS got a good premium for allowing Netflix to stream it. Why can't we in the US watch it? This is just stupid...
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The reason is CBS All access is in the US. I am not sure about canada I think there Space Channel which is like our Scifi has it.
NetFlix paid for international distribution.
Finally you pay for cable all you pay is the cable company. Not the stations or networks behind it.

Fortunately CBS all access is only 6 bucks ( with commercials) and there on demand has a some good old shows including all the old series, and Mission Impossible, this is cheap compared to the MGM Stargate Command All Access that wants 20 a month to let you watch all of Stargate the movie, SG1, SGA and SGU + the 10 minute Stargate origins shorts. I love Stargate but for that I better get all of the MGM library and Scifi channel.
That really ticked me off. I mean 6 bucks I can deal with I pay that for Crunchyroll every month.
 
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