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My point is the Indian military budget big enough to handle a long stand off with China while wasting precious fuel and money?
India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan
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Not to mention a few well-placed bombs will shut off those rough roads.
Hendrik_2000
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Large number of troop across the border mean they are exposed to both artillery fire and missile or rocket strike at the first opportunity available
In 62 Indian troop mass along single road and the Chinese manage to infiltrate the middle of the road and push both front and back destroying complete army minute 033 to min 049
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Normally there is engineering company attach to the front line and their job is to built road and bridges
It is not the quest of transport but feeding 50000 troop on months end is expensive!
it is without saying you have to achieve air superiority
Food is actually really cheap when you think about it and the additional transport cost/time is negligible.
Eg. a 40tonne truck only costs a few hundred dollars per day
And realistically, Indian army units will disperse into the field, rather than stay concentrated in their barracks
Eg. a 40tonne truck only costs a few hundred dollars per day
And realistically, Indian army units will disperse into the field, rather than stay concentrated in their barracks
Hendrik_2000
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it all add up you need not only transport food but clean water,drinking water, sanitary, and the whole caboodle I guess you didn't read your history well .
Back in roman time they run out of money because the cost of maintain garrison is so high. Well how about just now with Trump complaining left and right about allies taking advantage of US and doesn't contribute to cost of maintaining US army in Europe or Japan.
It cost Japan 2 billion per year to maintain 50,000 troop.That is just Japan contribution the total cost is much higher
NO it is not cheap. Ok Indian eat lentil but still it is expensive
That is the reason why Han dynasty doesn't maintain garrison in Xinjiang after defeating the HUN
Well the Indian soldier can disperse but after destruction of barrack and other support system like food storage, fuel and ammunition,water storage etc
How long you think they can hold down specially in winter time?
So what if it costs Japan 2 billion per year for 50,000 soldiers.
In the commercial world, transport costs typically account for less than 10% of the product value.
Having the soldiers next to their operating positions is worth the extra money.
The Han dynasty garrisoning Xinjiang is simply not relevant, because those were the days of hideously expensive camel transport.
I am sure China sees the BRICS summit next week as an opportunity to resolve the situation peacefully, with or without Russian mediation, if India withdraws its troops back to its side of the border. But India is being unrealistic if their definition of the "Chinese position softening" is for China to accept in any way Indian troops remaining on the Chinese side of the border or that such an incursion is acceptable in any way.
Also the Russians are likely to keep in mind Modi's re-orienting India towards the US, and given that the circumstances surrounding Doklam do not clearly have India in the right, nor is a peaceful and India-advantageous outcome likely, Russia is unlikely to involve itself in such a way to allow Modi to use any Russian involvement as an excuse to denigrate or downgrade the India-Russia relationship if things don't go India's way. Russia's China relationship is also too important to be risked for something as marginal as India's interventionism. However Russia will probably be glad to sell India more arms regardless of how the Doklam situation goes.
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I think the Chinese position is very clear. Indian military personnel have crossed into Chinese territory. Indian forces must unilaterally withdraw unconditionally. This leaves absolutely no room for negotation. India has had more than 70 days of opportunity to withdraw. There is exactly 1 possible course of action that India can take, and none other. This has been been made publicly known ad nausem, and China clearly will not back down. The best explanation for why China would continue to hold BRICS summit with India in attendance, assuming Modi were to attend, would be further to show to the rest of world that China desires peace and does not seek to start a war. Xi may even meet personally publicly with Modi for precisely that reason, though I am very skeptical of that occurring. It would be all about protecting China's image.
This leads us to the another part of the issue, which is what India and China want from this standoff. From the actions of India over the past several weeks, one can make the argument that they may have realized that they bit off a little bit more than they can chew, but they are not ready to spit it back out yet. India is looking for any possible way to wrestle its way out of this bind without losing face, for which Modi will suffer politically. First they proposed bilateral withdrawal, which China immediately rejected. Now they may be looking for mediation from a third party, which in my opinion, is a non starter since China will not have a third party dictate the sovereignty over its own territory. Finally, faced with an ultimatum, India may actually back down and unilaterally withdraw, but leave enough of ambiguity in the media to provide cover with any number of excuses.
Which begs the question of what are China's intentions at this point. The trajectory of China's stance started off with 'hardline' and has actually progressed into being even more aggressive. Not only is China simply asking India to unilaterally withdraw, but China is also publicly stating that India must pay a price for its 'strategic miscalculation.' The most immediately visible action would be instantaneous and very much publicized resumption of road construction. Later on, it will manifest with increased Chinese influence in the region, with diplomatic relations with Bhutan being the most likely outcome. Thus, China not only intends to return the present situation back to what China perceives to be the status quo (building a road on Chinese territory), but may seek to extract further political gains. China may even up the ante further along the LAC by increasing its patrols and placing further pressure on India. This is less likely because such action would inevitably lead to a skirmish at some point, and lead to to war.
Given the singular option being presented to it, India may find it hard to stomach such humiliation, which is all the more reason why this situation is so precarious.
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