Battlestar Galactica

Deleted member 675 · Oct 24, 2006

On a side-note, does anyone watch Prison Break? Now that's a clever show - lots of plot twists. Mind you I hope they don't spin it out too long, unless they REALLY have good ideas for a third season.

adeptitus · Oct 24, 2006

Warning: BSG TV series spoilers below

In the originak 1978 BSG TV series, Pegasus went missing after a confrontation vs. 2 Cylon base stars. The 2 base stars were destroyed and there was no sign of the Pegasus, leading to speculation that it was destroyed, but never confirmed.

In the new BSG TV series, I think it's very much confirmed that the Pegasus was destroyed via ramming into a base star. @_@

It's also interesting to note that the new BSG TV series replaced the male Commander Cain with a female one, just like Starbuck. The plot involving Admiral Helena Chain in the new series changed quite a bit too, since she didn't regain command of her ship and was killed by Gina. Her attitudes was also far more extreme.

bd popeye said:
I wish I had Sci-Fi on my cable. I have seen BSG a few times. And really enjoyed it. Not recently however.

Hi Popeye,

You can purchase (or rent) the first 2 seasons of BSG on DVDs, and download the 3rd season episodes via Apple iTunes store:

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The DVDs are a bit pricy, but you can rent them for less from netflix.com.

IDonT · Oct 24, 2006

Death of the peggy

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crobato · Oct 24, 2006

I also recommend the show Heroes. You can watch it either in NBC or Sci Fi channel. That show blows my mind. It's the breakout hit of the fall season and genuinely sci-fi at the same time.

Totoro · Oct 25, 2006

IDonT said:
But what I still don't get is why are there no BVR weapons in fighter to fighter combat.

Because BVR combat is not as intersting as dogfighting, at least to portray on the screen. It is something i've tried to get around many times myself... trying to make up a believable reason why future space combat would be done very much like gun dogfighting... couldn't come up with a realistic reason. The best i could do was get complete radar stealth, but damn laws of thermodynamics prevented me from achieving thermal stealth. Plus, even if the craft would get to gun range, i couldn't think of a reason why the guns wouldn't be fully automated and just swivel around in their turrets gunning in whichever direction. Ideally for film/tv purposes, it'd be fixed guns forward on the craft with pilot pressing the trigger for firing. But the logic behind that just doesn't exist in year 2205 or whatever.

FreeAsia2000 · Oct 25, 2006

Totoro said:
Because BVR combat is not as intersting as dogfighting, at least to portray on the screen. It is something i've tried to get around many times myself... trying to make up a believable reason why future space combat would be done very much like gun dogfighting... couldn't come up with a realistic reason. The best i could do was get complete radar stealth, but damn laws of thermodynamics prevented me from achieving thermal stealth. Plus, even if the craft would get to gun range, i couldn't think of a reason why the guns wouldn't be fully automated and just swivel around in their turrets gunning in whichever direction. Ideally for film/tv purposes, it'd be fixed guns forward on the craft with pilot pressing the trigger for firing. But the logic behind that just doesn't exist in year 2205 or whatever.

Well the good news is they got rid of the 'sound' of guns firing in space

AssassinsMace · Oct 25, 2006

Actually when I was a kid I watched Robotech and they did a suspenseful BVR combat situation. It was all on radar screens but it built the suspense. Ever play Harpoon on the PC? It was much like the suspense of waiting to see if your sortie or missile strike was effective... how many of the enemy got through...

Finn McCool · Oct 27, 2006

Totoro said:
Because BVR combat is not as intersting as dogfighting, at least to portray on the screen. It is something i've tried to get around many times myself... trying to make up a believable reason why future space combat would be done very much like gun dogfighting... couldn't come up with a realistic reason. The best i could do was get complete radar stealth, but damn laws of thermodynamics prevented me from achieving thermal stealth. Plus, even if the craft would get to gun range, i couldn't think of a reason why the guns wouldn't be fully automated and just swivel around in their turrets gunning in whichever direction. Ideally for film/tv purposes, it'd be fixed guns forward on the craft with pilot pressing the trigger for firing. But the logic behind that just doesn't exist in year 2205 or whatever.

About the swiveling guns...Wouldn't it be possible to put missle firing turrets on strategic bomber? Just a thought I've had for a while.

swimmerXC · Nov 1, 2006

amazing show, i just watched the first like 3 hour "miniseries" they had... it was amazing, it beats SG1 anyday

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atleast half of the stuff in the show has some realism compared to SG1

bd popeye · Nov 1, 2006

You can purchase (or rent) the first 2 seasons of BSG on DVDs, and download the 3rd season episodes via Apple iTunes store:

Thanks! I think they are in Walmart also.

I remember the premier of Sep 1978 BSG. The stars of the show Richard Hatch, Lorene Greene et all appeared in costume on the old talk show circuit. Talking up the show. I remember seeing them on Mike Douglass or Merv Griffin.

The premire was on a Sunday night. It was a three hour gala..Great ratings. Pretty good show for that time. It was the first TV show my then two and a half year old son watched in it's entirety. But there was a problem...

The pilot to this series, the biggest budgeted (US$7 million) pilot ever up to that time, was originally released theatrically in Canada, Western Europe and Japan in July 1978 in an edited 125-minute version. (See Saga of a Star World for information on the pilot).

On September 17, 1978, the uncut 148-minute pilot premiered on ABC to spectacular Nielsen Ratings (attracting 65 million viewers). Two-thirds of the way through the broadcast, ABC interrupted with a special report of the signing of the Camp David Accords at the White House by Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, witnessed by U.S. President Jimmy Carter. After the ceremony, ABC resumed the broadcast at the point where it was interrupted.

In 1978, 20th Century Fox sued Universal Studios (the producers of Battlestar Galactica) for plagiarism, claiming it had stolen 34 distinct ideas from Star Wars. Universal promptly countersued, claiming Star Wars had stolen ideas from their 1972 film Silent Running (notably the robot "drones") and the Buck Rogers serials of the 1940's. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed in 1980 as being "without merit".

The show was cancelled dispite high ratings...loved that show..

As the series progressed, the ratings began to decline, even though the show still consistently won its coveted Sunday evening timeslot. Although each episode had a budget of about $1 million, the show reused so many special effects shots due to budgetary constraints that many critics derided it as "overplayed into tedium."

In mid-April 1979, ABC executives cancelled the still strongly-rated show. Some sources indicate that the million-dollar-per-episode cost led to the show's demise. Others believe that it was a failed attempt by ABC to position its hit comedy Mork & Mindy into a more lucrative timeslot. (The ratings for Mork plummeted far below what they had been for Battlestar Galactica.) The cancellation led to viewer outrage, protests outside ABC studios, and even contributed to the suicide of Eddie Seidel, a 15-year-old boy in Saint Paul, Minnesota who had become obsessed with the program. [1] On May 18, 1979, the theatrical version of the pilot was released in U.S. theaters.

ABC executives have noted that the problem lay not in Galactica, but in the time slot. The four or five shows that filled that slot after the cancellation of Battlestar Galactica never reached the ratings achieved by the series.

I once read somewhere that the OG 1978 BSG was the highest rated show ever cancelled in the history of US Tv.

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