India incursion and Chinese standoff at Dolam, Bhutan

Janiz said:

You can see those 'amazing Kung Fu kicks' enywhere around the world on the Friday/Saturday nights... Kicking someone on the back when he's not noticing at all doesn't give you fame...

What's more - in most of the civilised coutries if it's cought on tape and brought into 'daylight' before the court it brings you some 'social hours' instead of medals. I bet it's the same in PLA.

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First of all, this is a military operation, where every combat tactic is on the table, including obviously sneak attacks.

This is NOT a duel, where two people face each other off at high noon.

The most important question is why the Indian soldier turned his back on his opponents? In a tense moment like that, you don't know what will happen next. Someone might decide to pull the trigger and you get a shooting battle. And you turn your back on your opponents? That's an idiotic move. It actually shows lack of training on the Indian part. I'd say "shame on you for losing your focus!"

If this was a basketball game (which is much much less intense), this guy would have been benched by his coach immediately.

Jura said:

now I read
China criticizes India's building roads near undemarcated boundary
Xinhua| 2017-08-24 19:37:54

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How blatantly hypocritical! India illegally tells China to refrain from changing the "status quo" and subsequently proceeds to build its own road in undoubtedly disputed territory while at the same time trespassing into Chinese territory. China needs to forcefully respond and go into Kashmir on behalf of the Pakistan, who I think is more than willing to let China "protect" them. India seriously ought to know that its brinkmanship won't end well ...

Janiz said:

You can see those 'amazing Kung Fu kicks' enywhere around the world on the Friday/Saturday nights... Kicking someone on the back when he's not noticing at all doesn't give you fame...

What's more - in most of the civilised coutries if it's cought on tape and brought into 'daylight' before the court it brings you some 'social hours' instead of medals. I bet it's the same in PLA.

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As everybody has said before It is not a sporting event . It is quasi war and the only rule in war is "survival"
No civilized country will barge in into other country without invitation . It is called squatter and as such the rightful owner has the right to evict the squatter by any mean available!

Jura said:

I would've thought the ground could only be taken using a ground force LOL but I don't strive to have the last word or nothing

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PLAAF will gain air superiority over the conflict zone within a couple of weeks. Afterwards, it will be a one sided massacre of India's ground forces. That's how the kill ratio is going to be 1:10 (yes I made it up, but you get the point).

I think this is a great opportunity to test robot warfare (remote controlled) given the harsh environment. Drones too but I am not sure if there is enough oxygen in the air to power the drones.

discspinner said:

PLAAF will gain air superiority over the conflict zone within a couple of weeks. Afterwards, it will be a one sided massacre of India's ground forces. That's how the kill ratio is going to be 1:10 (yes I made it up, but you get the point).

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I am not so sure that is automatic. First there is a factor of luck in it. Secondly the Indians have been training on this sort of high altitude terrain a lot, judging from their accident reports. I remembered they lost a Su30 and Mig not too long ago doing what they call "terrain hugging" in this area.

Americans won't fight until they have overwhelming air superiority over the opponent. In the case of China/India it is not that clear cut

kurutoga said:

I am not so sure that is automatic. First there is a factor of luck in it. Secondly the Indians have been training on this sort of high altitude terrain a lot, judging from their accident reports. I remembered they lost a Su30 and Mig not too long ago doing what they call "terrain hugging" in this area.

Americans won't fight until they have overwhelming air superiority over the opponent. In the case of China/India it is not that clear cut

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China has been rotating J11, J10 in Tibet airfield for a long time .India has around 150 SU30 but their operational readiness is only 60 to 70% meaning at any time 305 or more of their SU30 MKI is in hangar undergoing maintenance. There is serious issue with engine 5 or 6 fell out of the sky due to engine failure. Another tone is avionic that can shut down unannounced

Then there is the question of weapon supply in real war you will expend your air force resources quickly both in term of plane and weapon
Since India doesn't produce their own weapon how are they going to replace the one that got shot down? or the weapon that has been expended
The attrition rate will be horrendous

In the war logistic is king and here China has advantages compare to India

There was an article in an Indian newspaper about an internal audit done by the Indian government a few months ago. They found that the Indian military only has enough ammunition to last a few days of intense fighting (I can't remember the exact number of days, may be 4, may be 10 days...).

vesicles said:

There was an article in an Indian newspaper about an internal audit done by the Indian government a few months ago. They found that the Indian military only has enough ammunition to last a few days of intense fighting (I can't remember the exact number of days, may be 4, may be 10 days...).

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Why would they make that public?

siegecrossbow said:

Why would they make that public?

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No clue... it was in the newspaper article talking about how ill prepared the Indian military is. I'll see if I can find it again.

Edit... found it: