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I'm wondering how many years it'll take to drop perhaps from texts like

"But, the F-35 is a big and expensive hammer to crack a small nut. With this in mind, perhaps advocates of the OA-X are correct to insist that the USAF needs a lower-tier CAS platform, at lower cost, that is easily able to operate in low- to medium-threat environments and thus avoid the unnecessary burning of precious F-35 service life."

OA-X shaping up
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Air Force Brat

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I'm wondering how many years it'll take to drop perhaps from texts like

"But, the F-35 is a big and expensive hammer to crack a small nut. With this in mind, perhaps advocates of the OA-X are correct to insist that the USAF needs a lower-tier CAS platform, at lower cost, that is easily able to operate in low- to medium-threat environments and thus avoid the unnecessary burning of precious F-35 service life."

OA-X shaping up
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because by the time you add up all the OA-X aircraft, their support and ground support you end with a Fractional 1/2 off of a real airplane??? plus you have all that structure, that in a real high end conflict gets left behind..

While OA-X is initially cheaper, every dime you spend takes away from actual air-superiority/strike capability,, so it will remain a "popular mechanic" wet dream, in the real world we need big-boy airplanes! LOL
 

Air Force Brat

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I'm wondering how many years it'll take to drop perhaps from texts like

"But, the F-35 is a big and expensive hammer to crack a small nut. With this in mind, perhaps advocates of the OA-X are correct to insist that the USAF needs a lower-tier CAS platform, at lower cost, that is easily able to operate in low- to medium-threat environments and thus avoid the unnecessary burning of precious F-35 service life."

OA-X shaping up
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The smart thing here is to retain the A-10 for low end threats, may be overkill, but it will do the do as a tank-killer like nothing else! The F-35 will cover the initial and when it goes DOWN and DIRTY, let the A-10 work up close with the troops, that GA-8 is a gorgeous weapon, very intimidating to the bad boys! HEH! HEH!!!

As for OA-X, we'll dink around and study this and study that, but when the time comes to write that humongous check for this cheap airplane,,,,,ain't gonna happen for the 10th time since Popular Science started dreaming these wet dream in 1955!
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
based on A10 losses vs performance numbers being blunt if the USAF really wanted a serious OA-X platform they should make it a heavily armed Drone. The mission statement and needs of the job are such that the only reason you would need to get as Brat said "DOWN and DIRTY,"
remove the pilot you can lose the titanium bathtub, you can reduce the size of the bird and drop the cost.
 

Jeff Head

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I added the more F-35s to my USS Ronald Reagan, CVN-76, one taking off at the bow:

Cvn76-391.jpg cvn76-392.jpg cvn76-393.jpg cvn76-394.jpg

I have 42 aircrat aboard now, including 15 F-35Cs. Two groups f them, one full stealth for SEAD and another fully loaded to come in after the SEAD attacks.

Will not be lon before we see those F-35Cs aboard the US carrier, the UK carriers, and others for real!
 

Air Force Brat

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based on A10 losses vs performance numbers being blunt if the USAF really wanted a serious OA-X platform they should make it a heavily armed Drone. The mission statement and needs of the job are such that the only reason you would need to get as Brat said "DOWN and DIRTY,"
remove the pilot you can lose the titanium bathtub, you can reduce the size of the bird and drop the cost.

The problem I have with this is #1 I hate drones, (I hate the idea of an armed killing machine in my vicinity with no ON/OFF switch), anybody who's ever flown a flight sim from the cockpit knows how difficult situational awareness is in a one dimensional camera view. I just don't trust a UAV to know when to say NO, we've already had way to many collateral calamities.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The problem I have with this is #1 I hate drones, (I hate the idea of an armed killing machine in my vicinity with no ON/OFF switch), anybody who's ever flown a flight sim from the cockpit knows how difficult situational awareness is in a one dimensional camera view. I just don't trust a UAV to know when to say NO, we've already had way to many collateral calamities.
Brat, First The new sensor types are not a single array they are the same distributed aperture array concept as the F35 dozens of cameras,
Second The fact is job for job F35 like F16 before it can almost every job with guided munitions the job of the A10 from a standoff position without risking the pilot.
However for the Down in the weeds jobs your run into the issue of the high attrition rate if the pilot is removed the cost of loss of machine drops.
Finally The political issues are more a matter of how the drones have been used vs their use. the previous admin prefered to drop a missile and kill a suspected terrorist then risk boots and have a prisoner to add to the collection well also then having to justify closing a facility that he was adding more prisoners to. In there view it was more expedient to bomb then capture.
 
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F-35 Joint Strike Fighters arrive in Australia for the first time
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The two jets – part of Australia’s largest and most controversial defence purchase worth about $17bn – will take part in Avalon air show

Two F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets have landed in Australia for the first time, arriving at Amberley air force base outside Brisbane on Monday.

Australia has
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in the country’s largest – and most controversial – defence purchase, in a deal worth about $17bn. The jets will
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at a cost per fighter of about US$90m.

The United States air force
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; the $379bn program to develop and builder the fighter is the Pentagon’s largest weapons project.

But the project, which was launched in 2001, has been plagued by long delays, cost overruns of nearly 70% and technical problems.

Problems with the fighter jet have included
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and increased risk of neck injury to lower-weight pilots when they eject from the aircraft. The jet was also reportedly outperformed by the
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Suggestions by
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that the US may review or cut its F-35 joint strike fighter procurement
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in Australia’s plans to buy the jet.

Australia’s first F-35 jets are now based at Luke air force base in Arizona, with four RAAF pilots training to fly the fifth-generation aircraft. The F-35 will replace the ageing FA-18A/B Classic Hornets.

The RAAF F-35s will be revealed to the public at the Avalon air show in Victoria at the weekend.
 
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