China's overland Silk Road and Maritime Silk Road Thread

delft

Brigadier
Christina Lin writes in Atimes about China's interest in the security of routes through the Middle East and what it means for Israel:
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With the rise of Salafi-jihadism in the Middle East increasingly threatening China’s overseas citizens and assets, especially to their maritime trade via the Suez Canal, Israel is emerging as a strategic node on China’s southern corridor on the New Silk Road.
As such, China is building a “
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” of the Med-Red Railway through Israel to connect the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea that bypasses the Suez.
Also, countries in the Eastern Mediterranean likely see the China-led Eurasian security bloc as a more effective anti-terror coalition to counter ISIS, Al Qaeda and other Salafi terrorist groups, while the US-led coalition is perceived to have a regime-change objective by supporting al Qaeda laced Salafist groups to overthrow secular governments considered unfriendly.

As former special operations veteran Jack Murphy revealed, CIA’s Syria Task Force and the Counterterrorist Center/Syria-Iraq (CTC/SI) remain focused on
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the Assad government rather than the terrorists. Indeed, counter-terror expert and Professor at Northeastern University, Max
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, notes Egypt’s President Sisi likely fears he is next in line for regime change after US removes President Assad, and is now forging bilateral counter-terrorism ties with Damascus.
This belongs here but it is also relevant in all other developments in the Middle East.

Dr. Christina Lin is a Fellow at the Center for Transatlantic Relations at SAIS-Johns Hopkins University where she specializes in China-Middle East/Mediterranean relations, and a research consultant for Jane’s Chemical, Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear Intelligence Centre at IHS Jane’s.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
He sailed a century earlier.
The silk road, before this name was given, was active more than two thousand years ago, perhaps much earlier.

The maritime silk road is not the only route. There is land route as well. They have been planning it for decade but difficulty with funding and security consideration have slowed the construction.
There are 3 branches of Kunming to Bangkok-Singapore. One is the western route through Myanmar and the east route goes thru Vietnam. The Chinese side are almost completed. But the Vietnamese is suspicious of China and Myanmar until recently is in a mess.
The only realistically feasible route is the middle branch thru Laos. But it was held up for long time because of funding and the Thai political turmoil slowing down the decision the Thai side of the line
But apparently construction start last Dec 2015. The KL-Sgp section of the line has been agreed and contract will be let next year
First steps taken to build 427km line connecting Lao capital to Chinese border
Long dreamed of, discussed and debated, China-backed plans to build high-speed rail networks that link countries in mainland South-east Asia and to open up a route for China to the maritime highways of the Gulf of Thailand and Bay of Bengal are seeing the first real steps taken.

On Dec 2 last year, a ground- breaking ceremony attended by Lao and Chinese officials was held in Vientiane in a symbolic start of construction of a 427km railway to connect the Lao capital to the Chinese border.

The US$6.04 billion (S$8.7 billion) Laos-China joint venture is expected to be completed in four to five years.

The project could be transform-ational for landlocked Laos, though questions hang over the viability of the rail link when it is eventually commissioned.

But it also means a lot to China, which has long sought southern access to the sea.


Some 100,000 workers will be needed for the massive project, and it is unclear how many of them will be Chinese. Laos does not have railways - and thus has no workers skilled at building them.

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Students catching a train as it is about to pull out of Bangkok's Hualamphong train station. The China-Vientiane link will essentially connect China's border to Thailand, and will be the first of several railway lines China has been trying to get its southern neighbours to implement. ST FILE PHOTO
On Jan 11, the Vientiane Times reported that there would be a "sizeable Chinese workforce'' and one of the priorities was to set up infrastructure and supply chains geared to the anticipated "influx".

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The newspaper quoted Deputy Prime Minister Somsavat Lengsavad as telling the National Assembly that Lao workers were being selected for training in China. Courses would include railway management.

On China's part, it will set up a training centre in Yunnan province, which neighbours Laos, to support the massive project.

Earlier in November, Chinese official Zhao Xiang, leader of the Lao-Sino Railway Project Joint Preparatory Team, said Chinese technicians would "accompany and mentor Lao staff'' to enable them to run the railway later, the Vientiane Times reported.

The China-Vientiane link will essentially connect China's border to Thailand, and will be the first of several railway lines China has been trying to get its southern neighbours to implement.

In time, the network will connect Yunnan's capital city Kunming to Singapore via Bangkok.

It took 10 years of negotiations to seal the deal with Laos - partly because its neighbour Vietnam, whose relationship with China is rocky, was wary of security implications.

China this month succeeded also in getting Thai officials to inaugurate a 530 billion baht (S$21 billion) railway project in Thailand, despite the terms not being settled.

A memorandum of understand-ing on building about 850km of dual track railway in Thailand, connecting the Lao border to Bangkok and then east to Thailand's Map Ta Phut industrial zone, was signed in December 2014. But construction has been delayed repeatedly as many of the terms of the project , which will cost 400 billion baht on preliminary estimates, remain to be sorted out.

One sticking point has been the 2.5 per cent interest China has wanted to charge Thailand for its loan - the size of which is yet to be confirmed.

However, that has changed. On Tuesday, Thai Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittaya-paisith said China had agreed to charge 2 per cent.

Logistics expert Ruth Banomyong, a professor at Bangkok's Thammasat University, sees the rail project in Laos as basically "a turnkey project''.

"But from the Thai perspective, Thailand wants a relatively big say on implementation," Prof Ruth told The Straits Times in an interview.

Yet, Beijing seems confident about the prospects; China's leadership sees the commence-ment of the Sino-Lao railway as a major victory in its "railway diplomacy".

Laos is turning into a showcase for China's largesse. Last November, China launched Laos' first communications satellite, LaoSat1, built and financed - at US$258 million - also by China.

Seventy per cent of the cost of the railway of more than US$6 billion will come from China.

In recent years, special cross-border economic zones have been coming up on the China-Laos border.

And last year, China announced an experimental economic development and industrial zone along the border with total investment pitched at US$31 billion - a sum larger than even Laos' GDP.

"It does show you that the Chinese identify Laos as a country they need to focus on,'' Ms Yun Sun, a senior associate with the East Asia Programme at the Washington-based Stimson Centre, said in a telephone interview.

"The logic is that when China wants to go through mainland South-east Asia, from north to south, on the east is Vietnam, and on the west Myanmar is closed either because of domestic politics or bilateral relations. Which leaves them with the central option, south through Laos and Thailand," she added.

While the railway project may be transformational, it could also become a burden for Laos, warned Prof Ruth.

"A rail system is a facilitator for growth, but the benefits won't be felt immediately. The railway networks are a burden in the early years,'' he added.

The Bangkok Post, Thailand's top English-language daily, headlined a recent report on China's railway plans - "Bangkok set to become China's rail hub".

Analysts noticed that the headline did not say Bangkok would be Thailand's rail hub.

"It's a Chinese initiative, totally,'' said Prof Ruth. "And it's going the way the Chinese want it to go."
 
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Once again,China does the heavy lifting, while everybody else criticizes.

I guess you should ignore the critics. When it come to China they will criticize no matter what. It is ingrained in their psyche.It is all mixture of scare,awe with tinge of jealously.Like they say the dog keep barking but the caravan move on

For a poor country like Laos they definitely need rail line because it is the cheapest form of transportation and facilitate trade, cities, and township development.

China did the right thing to help those developing country build infrastructure without it there will be no development.
In turn she will benefit as well by enabling connectivity across SEA and provide sea access to landlocked province like Yunnan and market in SEA

Geo-politically it will bring those states and people closer to China .
Yes she does the heavy lifting but the investment is well worth it.Beside Charity should start at home or close to it
 
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advill

Junior Member
Well Done China. Business, trade & investments are NOT politics. It's for the good of globalisation. The "Silk (Land) Road & Maritime Silk Road" proposed/introduced by China are forward looking for the benefit of those involved. Not propaganda but realistic/pragmatic actions. Critics need to suggest or quote alternatives if they can, otherwise they should stop making unnecessary noises. Globalisation is not a privy for any one nation.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Let the China critics whine and criticize the PRC all they want while the rest of us can call them out and take names. This would kill off their soft power and shut them up for awhile.;)
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Well Done China. Business, trade & investments are NOT politics. It's for the good of globalisation. The "Silk (Land) Road & Maritime Silk Road" proposed/introduced by China are forward looking for the benefit of those involved. Not propaganda but realistic/pragmatic actions. Critics need to suggest or quote alternatives if they can, otherwise they should stop making unnecessary noises. Globalisation is not a privy for any one nation.
In the business of state, economics is security, and politics is omnipresent. To believe otherwise is naive or disingenuous.
 

advill

Junior Member
Blackstone: What I meant by "politics" is that I don't believe China has an absolute political agenda when promoting and being involved in the "Roads". The "Roads" as announced are for flow of Trade & Investments, principally for the benefit of China and the nations concerned. History has shown no single big nation can force or try to use their political agenda successfully to only achieve their trade & investment objectives. The countries that are given assistance are not naïve, perhaps some would outwardly show their "political" alignments because of aid. Also, some of their national leaders are corrupt, and would sing to any tune in the hope of lining their pockets. Any pragmatic investor-country and biz Corporation will use the proven PESTS (Political. Economic, Social-Cultural, Technological & Security) Analysis, before proceeding prudently with projects. BUT to use subtle approach for any overall political objective would be detrimental. Failures have been seen when "aid" with a political agenda was tied to some foreign projects. Hopefully, countries can learn from past mistakes of others (including a few Western countries), and be genuine and transparent in their approaches. "Those who realise their folly are not true fools". Chuang Tzu.
 
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