Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

Deino

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GingerZombie said:
Do you have a source on these pics? Interesting to see if this really is the 9th airframe, an announcement from yesterday matches up nicely!:
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Like I explained already here ... IMO it is more than unlikely that this is actually no. 9 !! more like this:

Deino said:
Concerning this aleged T50 no. 9 I did some research behind .... and it seems as if indeed some sort of typical Russian-media hype is involved:

Following the original Zvezda statement, "Девятый самолет ПАК ФА выходит из опытной партии" = "Ninth aircraft PAK-FA exits/leaves from the experimental batch" he actually said nothing that it flew, maybe not even that it is finished: More likely it seems as if he is saying that ninth T-50 will be more serial-like, which is in line with what the infamous Azohen Vey said that T-50-9 should be complete in terms of electronics. Borisov didnt say directly a new prototype has joined the ranks.

So this is not ninth T-50 prototype in total, and even less 10'th flying (like some fan-boys already assume) T-50 because in reality there were two different T-50-5's, but it is simply easier to refer to T-50-8 as ninth.

1. T50-0
2. T50-1 (051)
3. T50-2 (052)
4. T50-3 (053)
5. T50-4 (054)
6. T50-5 no longer but now T50-6-1 = T50-5R (055)
7. T50-6-2 (056)
8. T50-7 = static test specimen (??)
9. T50-8 unconfirmed (??)

As such he is even most likely counting these 9 aircraft not as flying prototypes but simply the 6 flying as of now (T50-1, 2, 3, 4, 5R, 6-2) and the two static frames -0 and -7 and now T50-8.

But as usual ... all what sounds good is fine even if the truth is a bit different.
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Deino said:
Finally a few images of this alleged new airframe ...
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Yes and for an airplane that proponents have touted as "very stealty" because the bulk of the construction of this aircraft are composites, I would say?? "I wish I had a dollar for every rivet on this bird", lots of Titanium, and LOTS of Rivets!

Very Heavy structure, and lots of rivets, no doubt lots of "doublers" internally to "beef-up" those areas that were very prone to cracking and stress fractures, not to criticize, I like lots of "beef" in my aircraft, I really don't want to break or crack anything!

This is in high contrast to the much cleaner/flush riveted structure of the J-20, which appears to be much more stealthy overall, but particularly from the front quadrant. Of course the J-20 does appear to have "coatings" in its latest iterations.

and I will add my "Amen!" to Deino's numbers assessment, no doubt #8, will be? or already is "the seventh flying prototype".
 
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Deino said:
Thanks ... but what aircraft is then the one now numbered "056" ??
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I think its obvious that 056 is 6-2 and T-50-8-2 iz 057?? yes??? or will they number the static bird and its 058???

I'm rather certain they want people confused, especially their superiors and fanbois/
 
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