ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

delft

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now read at Jane's (I don't have an access to the full article, only to '(332 of 498 words)' below)
Aleppo's rebel enclave rejects evacuation offer

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Of course it is meant to get the terrorists out of Aleppo. If they don't go they they'll be destroyed. Apparently they are as yet able to prevent civilians from escaping. The Russians hope that they can't maintain that for three days.
 
Yesterday at 8:09 AM
Wednesday at 7:34 AM

related:
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the map (no idea how credible) is tilted approximately North <<<
the area in the bottom-right corner is Government-held
now I saw a short vid showing Turkish tanks in Mare so it's going to be a hot weekend up there, I guess

(Yesterday at 10:35 PM
(concerning Rebels/Turks pushing for
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Today at 8:09 AM

pushing indeed, in about ten kilometers front:
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(it's what
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Of course it is meant to get the terrorists out of Aleppo. If they don't go they they'll be destroyed. Apparently they are as yet able to prevent civilians from escaping. The Russians hope that they can't maintain that for three days.
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Compare the coverage of Mosul and East Aleppo and it tells you a lot about the propaganda we consume
In both countries, two large Sunni Arab urban centres – East Aleppo in Syria and Mosul in Iraq – are being besieged by pro-government forces strongly supported by foreign airpower. Yet the coverage is very different
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Compare the coverage of Mosul and East Aleppo and it tells you a lot about the propaganda we consume
In both countries, two large Sunni Arab urban centres – East Aleppo in Syria and Mosul in Iraq – are being besieged by pro-government forces strongly supported by foreign airpower. Yet the coverage is very different
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Honesty is always valuable. Though as the song goes: "honesty, it's such a lonely word..."
 

delft

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Compare the coverage of Mosul and East Aleppo and it tells you a lot about the propaganda we consume
In both countries, two large Sunni Arab urban centres – East Aleppo in Syria and Mosul in Iraq – are being besieged by pro-government forces strongly supported by foreign airpower. Yet the coverage is very different
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Thank you!
To quote the article:
In East Aleppo, fortunately, there are no human shields – though the UN says that half the civilian population wants to depart – but simply innocent victims of Russian savagery.
So only half are human shield and the other half is happy to die with the militants?
 
now saw kinda bizarre footage from Aleppo at dusk today, actually sound was important: Government was using a bullhorn to reportedly tell Rebels to give up (it was audible in a large area)
(it's in Twitter, I don't know how to link here)
 

delft

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From the BBC website:
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Syria war: Aleppo ceasefire ends with clashes
  • 22 October 2016
Heavy clashes have been reported in the besieged Syrian city of Aleppo after a three-day ceasefire ended on Saturday.

The unilateral ceasefire was announced last week by Russia, which has been carrying out air strikes in support of the Syrian government.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said fighting and air strikes took place on Saturday night.

There are also concerns humanitarian aid did not reach the city during the ceasefire.

The Observatory said air strikes hit a key front line in the south-west of the city on Saturday, with clashes between rebel fighters and government troops intensifying in rebel-held eastern districts of Aleppo.

Ismail al-Abdullah, a resident of Aleppo who works as a volunteer with the White Helmets civil defence group, told the BBC he had witnessed bombings on the frontline, as well as snipers, in the hours since the ceasefire ended.

On Friday, the UN said a lack of security guarantees had forced it to delay plans to carry out medical evacuations from the city.

And while Russia and the Syrian government had urged people to leave using humanitarian corridors, one group said people were not able to do so.

"Nobody has left through the corridors," Zakaria Malahifji, a rebel official with the Fastaqim group, told Reuters earlier on Saturday.

"The small number of people which who tried to leave were faced with shelling around the [corridor area] and could not leave."


Aleppo, once Syria's largest city and the country's commercial and industrial hub, has been devastated by fighting since 2012. It has been left divided roughly in two, with President Bashar al-Assad's forces controlling the west and rebels the east.

At the start of September, troops and Iranian-backed militiamen severed the rebels' last route into the east and placed its 275,000 residents under siege.

Two weeks later, following the collapse of a nationwide truce brokered by the US and Russia, the government launched a ground offensive to take full control of the city, accompanied by an aerial bombardment of unprecedented scale and intensity.

At an emergency session of the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva on Friday, human rights chief Zeid Raad al-Hussein warned that "crimes of historic proportions" were being committed in the east of the city and elsewhere in Syria.

"The ancient city of Aleppo, a place of millennial civility and beauty, is today a slaughterhouse - a gruesome locus of pain and fear, where the lifeless bodies of small children are trapped under streets of rubble and pregnant women deliberately bombed," he said.
Note the text I made bolt.
No aid got into East Aleppo and very few people got out because of shelling and firing. But it doesn't say the Syrians or Russians are responsible so it must have been the "rebels" who kept the inhabitants in to serve as a human shield just as their colleagues are doing in Mosul. Indeed "crimes of historic proportions".
 
OK, so the answer to my earlier question is that Turkey/their rebels are attacking the Kurds, not the Kurds attacking IS thereby getting in the way of Turkey/their rebels. It smells to me that Turkey/their rebels might go all the way south to attack Syrian government territory and attempt to break the siege on Aleppo.
 
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