US Laser and Rail Gun Development News

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Sep 9, 2015

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/us-laser-and-rail-gun-development-news.t5879/page-18#post-362608):
Laser proponents acknowledge the record of past unfulfilled predictions, but argue that the situation has now changed because of rapid advancements in SSL technology and a shift from earlier ambitious goals (such as developing megawatt-power lasers for countering targets at tens or hundreds of miles) to more realistic goals (such as developing kilowatt-power lasers for countering targets at no more than a few miles).

Laser proponents might argue that laser skeptics are vulnerable to what might be called cold plate syndrome (i.e., a cat that sits on a hot plate will not sit on a hot plate again—but it will not sit on a cold plate, either).
can be confronted with
Air Force has directed energy weapons; now comes the hard part
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strehl

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Since there was a previous post showing a Rheinmetall laser mounted on a ship, I am assuming this thread has opened up to all HEL/Railgun systems rather than just American. This would be a minor adjustment given that only Germany is doing work with visible results (until the Israeli Iron Beam ever shows up).

 
according to FlightGlobal AFSOC shoots for AC-130 laser gunship mod in 2020
US Special Operations Command has requested funding from the Defense Department for fiscal year 2018 budget to begin modifying an AC-130 gunship for a high energy laser capability.

If approved for the budget, Air Force Special Operations Command anticipates the service could begin the modifications as early as Fiscal 2020 on an AC-130W currently used backup aircraft inventory at Cannon AFB, New Mexico, an AFSOC spokesman told FlightGlobal. Millions of dollars have already been set aside for the ground and flight testing, AFSOC chief Lt Gen Brad Webb says.

The effort is working its way through SOCOM programme executive offices fixed wing, Dalghren laboratories, the undersecretary of defence and the office of cost assessment and programme evaluation, he tells FlightGlobal.

The move is not the first time SOCOM has looked to jump-start the high energy laser program. Earlier this year, SOCOM submitted its unfunded requirements list to Congress, which included a request to include funds for the laser in the Fiscal 2017 budget.

But the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer expressed skepticism recently over directed energy weapons, noting airborne lasers continue to face issues with weather and atmospheric conditions.

“We’re not at the point where we can decide we’re going to put lasers in the force,” Frank Kendall told reporters in September.

Webb dismissed the idea that the larger DOD enterprise is rebuffing directed energy projects in favor of more immediate budget concerns. While the air force is examining directed energy from a defensive perspective and AFSOC is targeting an offensive capability, Webb says there are some synergies between the two efforts.

“There have been efforts that have fallen short because of technology in the past,” he says. “We want to be mindful of that going forward and that’s probably what you’re picking up on. I think it’s technology worth pursuing.”

AFSOC will determine the laser’s mounting location during testing, Webb says. The Air Force Scientific Advisory Board and AFSOC determined earlier this year that a left-side mounted laser would prove more cost effective than a belly mounted weapon. Former AFSOC chief Lt Gen Heithold has also mentioned that size, weight and power restraints favor fitting the laser into an existing space rather than adding the capability with the conventional guns. Initially, AFSOC will replace the AC-130W’s 30mm gun with a laser, Webb says.
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Jeff Head

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according to FlightGlobal AFSOC shoots for AC-130 laser gunship mod in 2020

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An really decent anti-personnel, and anti-light armor laser on a Specter gun ship would be an awesome thing.

You've seen the old time lapse pics of the tracers coming off of those gunships mini-guns looking like a laser...now imagine the real thing

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An really decent anti-personnel, and anti-light armor laser on a Specter gun ship would be an awesome thing.

You've seen the old time lapse pics of the tracers coming off of those gunships mini-guns looking like a laser...now imagine the real thing

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The "lasers" in Star Wars are based off old WWII footages of fighters/bombers shooting tracer rounds. Real lasers are invisible (unless of visible frequency/illuminated by particles) and travel at the speed of light.
 

Jeff Head

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The "lasers" in Star Wars are based off old WWII footages of fighters/bombers shooting tracer rounds. Real lasers are invisible (unless of visible frequency/illuminated by particles) and travel at the speed of light.
Of course they are to the naked eye.

But they will have instrumentalist tracking and showing exactly where they are hitting...and one day, we will see those images.
 

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Of course they are to the naked eye.

But they will have instrumentalist tracking and showing exactly where they are hitting...and one day, we will see those images.
The shooter see exactly where he is shooting since the laser would bounce off the point where they are aiming illuminating the spot.
As for seeing the laser from a side view, you should be able to see the air being warmed up warping a trail.
 
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