PLAN Zubr Large Air Cushion Landing Craft

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bruceb1959

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The Russian Zubr's have 'pop-up' MLRS as shown in the embedded image below. The Chinese ones have the MLRS covers but I was wondering in any one had seen the launchers 'exposed', or knows if the launchers are installed?
 

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kwaigonegin

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The Russian Zubr's have 'pop-up' MLRS as shown in the embedded image below. The Chinese ones have the MLRS covers but I was wondering in any one had seen the launchers 'exposed', or knows if the launchers are installed?

Looks like some sort of anti submarine/ multi purpose mortar which is also good for mine clearing etc or anti personel/smoke grenades launched prior to beach landing. My guess is similar to the Swedish ASW 600 grenades or the RBU 6000s etc.

Certainly a very useful weapon system for a landing craft platform or storming a beachhead etc.

As an aside. I think smoke grenades/bombs would've cut down significantly on Allied casualties if they were employed in Normandy. Massive smoke screen is a critical component of overall fire support protocols but I do not know the tactical doctrines of WWII vs they are today. I'm sure the chemical smokes (and the launchers) were probably not as 'advance' as they are today either maybe that's why they weren't used on DDay.
 

bruceb1959

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Looks like some sort of anti submarine/ multi purpose mortar which is also good for mine clearing etc or anti personel/smoke grenades launched prior to beach landing. My guess is similar to the Swedish ASW 600 grenades or the RBU 6000s etc.

Certainly a very useful weapon system for a landing craft platform or storming a beachhead etc.

As an aside. I think smoke grenades/bombs would've cut down significantly on Allied casualties if they were employed in Normandy. Massive smoke screen is a critical component of overall fire support protocols but I do not know the tactical doctrines of WWII vs they are today. I'm sure the chemical smokes (and the launchers) were probably not as 'advance' as they are today either maybe that's why they weren't used on DDay.

I'm sure I read in the past that the launchers on the Russian vessels were used for putting down blanket suppressing fire - so some sort of HE round? I just pulled this off Wikpedia:

'2 × 140 mm Ogon launchers, 22 rockets each with 132 rockets in total; or 2 x 122 mm retractable rocket launchers'
 

kwaigonegin

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I'm sure I read in the past that the launchers on the Russian vessels were used for putting down blanket suppressing fire - so some sort of HE round? I just pulled this off Wikpedia:

'2 × 140 mm Ogon launchers, 22 rockets each with 132 rockets in total; or 2 x 122 mm retractable rocket launchers'

Yup, between HE rounds, mortars etc raining down and the dual 30 mm I would hate to be caught in the open when these things come on shore!
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Yes but the Zubr is like a large cargo plane, you secure the airspace then you drop in the heavy lifters

Similar to Zubr, first they secure passage then they bring in LCAC with heavy materials

The same way you never roll tanks into open deserts with out aircover

Zubr can be used to out flank the enemy by its speed and lift by landing lots of men and materials and transporting 500 marines at 55 knots 4 such units could land a brigade

I don't think a Zubr would fit many country's naval strategy but it does fit China's
 

cyan1320

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Wow quite a beast :)
Just curious, I did not notice any rear facing weapons, any reason why?
Like maybe another 30mm/CIWS in the back to defend against missiles from from the rear?
The big fans would block the line of sight for the front mounted 30mm's if a missile was skimming close to the water
Or would a support ship help screen the rear?
 
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