ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

taxiya

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BBC radio 4 news was talking an hour ago about strategic incoherence wrt Turkey fighting Syrian Kurds while both are supported by US.:oops:
That "incoherence" is easy to understand, neither Turkey nor US are coherent. They only agree with one thing, remove Assad, nothing else not even who is supposed to replace Assad, therefor the incoherence.
 

delft

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That "incoherence" is easy to understand, neither Turkey nor US are coherent. They only agree with one thing, remove Assad, nothing else not even who is supposed to replace Assad, therefor the incoherence.
It goes further. If Assad was really hated by a substantial minority of the Syrians an anti-Assad movement could have been developed. Instead the many foreign sponsors, most publicly US, adopted and/or founded a large variety of armed "political" organizations only partly manned by Syrians with diverse methods and intentions. You saw the same in Dafur where some thirty rebel factions are now mostly defeated. I suppose they were only sponsored to weaken Sudan and allow the "independence" of South Sudan, itself the product of a similarly sponsored war and now the World's newest failed state.
 

taxiya

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It goes further. If Assad was really hated by a substantial minority of the Syrians an anti-Assad movement could have been developed. Instead the many foreign sponsors, most publicly US, adopted and/or founded a large variety of armed "political" organizations only partly manned by Syrians with diverse methods and intentions. You saw the same in Dafur where some thirty rebel factions are now mostly defeated. I suppose they were only sponsored to weaken Sudan and allow the "independence" of South Sudan, itself the product of a similarly sponsored war and now the World's newest failed state.
that tactic reminds me of "if I can't have it, none will" or "if I die I will bring everyone with me to hell", the kind of mentality of a decaying empire.
 
BBC radio 4 news was talking an hour ago about strategic incoherence wrt Turkey fighting Syrian Kurds while both are supported by US.:oops:
delft as you sure know :) Politics Is Never Consitent
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from Al Jazeera
34 minutes ago
Turkish-backed Syrian rebels advance towards Manbij
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will work on a map for two minutest now :)
 
from what I figured, the approximate positions in central-north Syria "as of now":
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(Manbij marked; Turks/Rebels on the Sayur River, so ... if they decided to cross ... I looked up the names of the bridges:
  1. Arab Hassan Bridge
  2. Dadat Bridge
of course ISIL is to the left, and Kurds also on the other side of the Euphrates (to the right;
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clearly visible; the bridge there (#3) is "Qare Qowzaq" Bridge, and I would expect heavy action in its area: Kurds could be simply cut off there if Turks went all the way)
 

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Taken a few days ago as US backed SDF fighters clash with Turkish backed FSA fighters around Jarablous.
Video shows the Kurds destroying a Turkish lookout and a Turkish tank with ATGM. Presumably a US supplied TOW

 
Yesterday at 5:57 PM
it's been some time ...
Nov 10, 2015
and today Rebels tried to push it from that bulge north to Hama:
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it seems they haven't achieved much yet ... but if they do, I'll update this post
from what I figured, today there had been a counter-strike mounted by Government, followed by Rebels' push; tiny "Btaysh" village (marked in the map below) probably is currently at the bottom of the pocket, its shape completely schematically shown by red lines (Halfaya lost by the Government yesterday (after Rebels had crossed the Orontes EDIT OK actually I don't know how they get around
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LOL), plus this afternoon reportedly "Taybat al-Imam" as well: between Souran and M5 Highway):
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it'll be interesting to see where the tide turns in this area
 
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