antiterror13
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Is it possible for AIP subs to stay on the seabed doing nothing waiting for enemy subs or warships approaching the area and then strike them. In that case ... is 90 day possible?
09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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Is it possible for AIP subs to stay on the seabed doing nothing waiting for enemy subs or warships approaching the area and then strike them. In that case ... is 90 day possible?
Yes but max six 094 they get sure 4 seems the 5th in construction after new 096 with possible up to 24 ? JL-3 so an SSBN of 170 m about 18000 t full as Ohio, SSBN-X or Borey.
antiterror13
Brigadier
Well, definitely the chance of 098 is being built is much much higher than winning lotto, unless you spent billion $ ... which is possible
@Hendrik_2000 deserves some respect from members in this forum, he has been in this forum quite long and has contributed a lot
Well I wasn't calling him ridiculous, rather the idea that the 098 is currently anything more than pure fanboi fantasy.
For joke nah
Yet no for food... SSK the more small submarines have less room for the stock but also less numerous crew... especialy the last very automatized some get only around 30 sailors !
have for 30/60 days.
Curiously Nuclear US get more big crew than Russian more automated then normaly US get better technologies...
The more common Type 209 in general 50 days, Kilo 45, Ming 60 days except him no data for Chineses and in general not always easy to have.
Nuclear more big 60/120 days, the Typhoon the Leviathan 120 days with cozy room for smoke, little pool for relax and a cellar for French wine eventualy Vodka for that no
Russians Typhoon, Oscar II 120 days others 100 including Borey, Delta III/IV 80/90, Victor III definitely inferior.
Ohio, Triomphant 70, Suffren 70, Rubis 45/60.
But don' t forget 60 or more days in a " tin can " it is not funny...
After if the AIP SSK don' t move or almost during 90 days for air for crew possible in theory ? seems much.
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antiterror13
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Thats your opinon and I respect that ... not necessary I agree with you or you are right ... but you need to respect other opinions as well (i.e Hendrik)
Very franckly @Hendrik_2000 is very " optimistic ", not realistic about capacites, performances, specifications of Chinese weapons really it is too much...with few infos we get we need to be more safe for évaluations.
So back for endurance interesting points and several parameters condition it:
Despite Subs especialy nuclear have an big autonomy her endurance is limited by food as i have mentionned but also especialy in wartime weapons load if a Sub fired torpedoes in salvo in few days can be exhausted mainly SSK SSN's get more reloads.
SSK have btw 12/22 weapons Soryu unusual 30, nuclears SSNs 14/about 60.
Dépends ot target size can be salvo of 2/4 weapons i let's you do the calculation.
Even a Nimitz can sustain air operations during about 15 days maximum if they are intensive 7 - 10 days.
So back for endurance interesting points and several parameters condition it:
Despite Subs especialy nuclear have an big autonomy her endurance is limited by food as i have mentionned but also especialy in wartime weapons load if a Sub fired torpedoes in salvo in few days can be exhausted mainly SSK SSN's get more reloads.
SSK have btw 12/22 weapons Soryu unusual 30, nuclears SSNs 14/about 60.
Dépends ot target size can be salvo of 2/4 weapons i let's you do the calculation.
Even a Nimitz can sustain air operations during about 15 days maximum if they are intensive 7 - 10 days.
Given that it takes a total of 5-8 years for a new submarine to be built, and that we've seen the Type-93Bs come out, logically the successor class should already be under construction.
This could be another group of SSBNs, but it more likely the Type-95 SSN.
So if the Type-95 is already under construction, that means the design has been frozen.
Therefore the naval designers would be working on the Type-96 SSBN or Type-97 SSN.
This could be another group of SSBNs, but it more likely the Type-95 SSN.
So if the Type-95 is already under construction, that means the design has been frozen.
Therefore the naval designers would be working on the Type-96 SSBN or Type-97 SSN.
The 095 may or may not be under construction, but not because it takes "5-8 years" for a new submarine to be built. The USS Virginia was built in under 4 years. Current construction time for follow-on ships of the class is 14-18 months, but it has been built at a rate of every 10-11 months in the past. USS Seawolf was built in 5 years. USS Los Angeles was built in only 2 years. We actually have no idea if the 095 is under construction. We have no idea if even the 095's design has been frozen, though this seems reasonable to assume. Needless to say, how far along the 096 is is pure speculation, because nobody outside the industry knows.