F-22 Raptor Thread

Bernard

Junior Member
So been reading comments from some online Russian trolls. One says we're keeping clear our F-22's away from the S-400 located in Syria. Are we? And read some that we hightailed it out of there after the S-400 card was played.

Then some questions come to mind. Do you think they can spot us? Are we just soaking up it's signals to learn from it? Are we being idiots and letting them getting access to the F-22 and learning a lot for the next gen S-500? Which claims it is a "stealth killer"?

Why the F are our F-22s still in there? Some advanced F-15s would do just enough intimidation to scare off unfriendly forces. With being way cheaper and less of a liability if we lost an F-22 over syria.
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
So been reading comments from some online Russian trolls. One says we're keeping clear our F-22's away from the S-400 located in Syria. Are we? And read some that we hightailed it out of there after the S-400 card was played.

Then some questions come to mind. Do you think they can spot us? Are we just soaking up it's signals to learn from it? Are we being idiots and letting them getting access to the F-22 and learning a lot for the next gen S-500? Which claims it is a "stealth killer"?

Why the F are our F-22s still in there? Some advanced F-15s would do just enough intimidation to scare off unfriendly forces. With being way cheaper and less of a liability if we lost an F-22 over syria.
Yet S-400 are based on the coast and normaly F-22 as we have see ... operates only in east Syria, so far for to be detected by radars and even IRST if he can with it max some tens of km as Fighters IRST.
Eventualy can have detected radar emissions but anyway promptly, not tracked.

But definitely USAF, UK RC-135V/W get more infos on S-400 than opposite despite that these RC-135 are more oriented for COMINT/SIGINT than ELINT.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
So been reading comments from some online Russian trolls. One says we're keeping clear our F-22's away from the S-400 located in Syria. Are we? And read some that we hightailed it out of there after the S-400 card was played.

Then some questions come to mind. Do you think they can spot us? Are we just soaking up it's signals to learn from it? Are we being idiots and letting them getting access to the F-22 and learning a lot for the next gen S-500? Which claims it is a "stealth killer"?

Why the F are our F-22s still in there? Some advanced F-15s would do just enough intimidation to scare off unfriendly forces. With being way cheaper and less of a liability if we lost an F-22 over syria.

Good GRIEF MAN! get hold of yourself! I may have to drive out to KC to give you a "brisk slappin around", better yet go tell your little wifey that dress makes her look FAT!

#1. Hanging out with Russian TROLLS is total loser Dude! you my boy are a member of the SINO DEFENSE FORUM! the premier DEFENSE FORUM ON THE PLANET!

#2. YOU are selling USDA GRADE A BEEF, take one of those 11/2" thick Porterhouse Steaks home and throw it on the BAR-B, don't burn it, give it a good sear on both sides, and DON'T USE A-1 Steak Sauce!

#3. Why do you think they are upset that F-22's are in Syria???? yep, that's right, those girls are cleaning up, pulling in signals and picking up the lingo, and those S-400s are in grave danger!

#4. Those guys are pulling your chain, the F-22 is not some big smoking hot Harrier, she's wearing those little black Ninja Jammies, they kind they wear when they are sneakin here and sneakin there, the first clue the bad guys will have is when they light that circus up for bid-ness, which they ain't gonna do??? cause they know, they know what you don't, that they are being hunted, and they are not used to that.

So go home, have that steak, baked potato with butter and sour cream, and a couple O big fat Brocoli Spears, then open up a bottle of Illinois Cellars Velvet Red, unless you can talk Mirage Driver into sending you some of his "home brew", jump in the hot tub and relax man.

Go back up to the top of my post, and scratch telling your chickie her dress makes her look fat, number one, it ain't true, and number two, I don't need you getting dead, I was just trying to "SHOCK" you a little bit! WOW, those Russians got to your "CRANIAL MUSCLE", finally you need to PM Jeff Head, and let him explain why those F-22s are aren't even on their radar screens, just flitting around like ghosts and giving them "nightmares"!
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Good GRIEF MAN! get hold of yourself! I may have to drive out to KC to give you a "brisk slappin around", better yet go tell your little wifey that dress makes her look FAT!

#1. Hanging out with Russian TROLLS is total loser Dude! you my boy are a member of the SINO DEFENSE FORUM! the premier DEFENSE FORUM ON THE PLANET!

#2. YOU are selling USDA GRADE A BEEF, take one of those 11/2" thick Porterhouse Steaks home and throw it on the BAR-B, don't burn it, give it a good sear on both sides, and DON'T USE A-1 Steak Sauce!

#3. Why do you think they are upset that F-22's are in Syria???? yep, that's right, those girls are cleaning up, pulling in signals and picking up the lingo, and those S-400s are in grave danger!

#4. Those guys are pulling your chain, the F-22 is not some big smoking hot Harrier, she's wearing those little black Ninja Jammies, they kind they wear when they are sneakin here and sneakin there, the first clue the bad guys will have is when they light that circus up for bid-ness, which they ain't gonna do??? cause they know, they know what you don't, that they are being hunted, and they are not used to that.

So go home, have that steak, baked potato with butter and sour cream, and a couple O big fat Brocoli Spears, then open up a bottle of Illinois Cellars Velvet Red, unless you can talk Mirage Driver into sending you some of his "home brew", jump in the hot tub and relax man.

Go back up to the top of my post, and scratch telling your chickie her dress makes her look fat, number one, it ain't true, and number two, I don't need you getting dead, I was just trying to "SHOCK" you a little bit! WOW, those Russians got to your "CRANIAL MUSCLE", finally you need to PM Jeff Head, and let him explain why those F-22s are aren't even on their radar screens, just flitting around like ghosts and giving them "nightmares"!

I'm glad you liked that Jeff HEAD! now that I have Bernard's attention, (hey Bernard, post up an order form for those Porterhouse Steaks Bruda, or PM me one) LOL,, anyway Master Jeff, Bernard needs some reassurance that our girls are "tough", not little wimpy fighters, but big bad mean MOMMA's, the kind that do give bad guys on Missile Launchers Nightmares!

and Bernard, they lay awake at night worrying about the F-22, and they know, they really do, the F-22s have been an amazing success in Syria, not only gathering information, but disseminating that information to other assets in the area, and feeding them targeting and security info, everybody is safer with the Raptor Hunting bad guys!
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
I'm glad you liked that Jeff HEAD! now that I have Bernard's attention, (hey Bernard, post up an order form for those Porterhouse Steaks Bruda, or PM me one) LOL

and Bernard, they lay awake at night worrying about the F-22, and they know, they really do, the F-22s have been an amazing success in Syria, not only gathering information, but disseminating that information to other assets in the area, and feeding them targeting and security info, everybody is safer with the Raptor Hunting bad guys!
Right on all counts my friend.

...and there you have it! Post number 5,000 for AFNB.

Congrats my friend!
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Right on all counts my friend.

...and there you have it! Post number 5,000 for AFNB.

Congrats my friend!

So where do I pick up my key for the "Executive Washroom", of the Sino Defense Forum! LOL

Fancy Soap and Towels that smell good, uuummmhhhh, almost like clean sheets! I do love being clean guys, I don't mind getting filthy dirty when I have to, grease under my nails and the whole nine yards, but when I'm done, I love a nice hot shower!
 
interesting Exclusive: U.S. pilots provide first account of tense Syrian jet encounter
A MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHWEST ASIA — Two American fighter pilots who intercepted Syrian combat jets over northern Syria last week said they came within 2,000 feet of the planes without the Syrians aware they were being shadowed.

The tense encounter occurred after Syrian jets dropped bombs near a U.S. adviser team with Kurdish forces in northern Syria. The Pentagon warned Syria that American forces were authorized to take action to defend its troops. Syrian aircraft haven’t dropped bombs in the area since then, and the U.S. military is no longer operating continuous combat patrols there.

“I followed him around for all three of his loops,” one of the American pilots, a 38-year-old Air Force major, told USA TODAY Wednesday in the first detailed account of the incident. “He didn’t appear to have any idea I was there.”

The two pilots asked that their names be withheld for security reasons.

“The behavior stopped,” said Brig. Gen. Charles Corcoran, commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, which conducts airstrikes in Iraq and Syria from an undisclosed location in this region. “We made our point.”

The encounter highlights the complexity of the battle in Syria against the Islamic State and raises worries that a mistake could widen the war.

“The big concern is really a miscalculation,” said Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Harrigian, commander of U.S. air operations in the Middle East. “It can happen on either side.”

Coalition pilots have generally managed to avoid Syrian and Russian aircraft over Syria, despite the congested airspace.

The U.S.-led coalition is not at war with the Syrian government or its Russian allies, and the Pentagon reached an agreement to exchange information with the Russians to avoid a miscalculation in the air, but the two sides are not cooperating.

“We made it very clear to our folks from the highest levels: We’re not at war with the Russians or Syrians,” Corcoran said. “We’re not here to shoot down Russian or Syrian airplanes.”

Russia and the United States have agreed to keep some areas off limits to Russian and Syrian aircraft, which includes Hasakah, the area bombed last week by the Syrians.

The complexities have required pilots to navigate an ambiguous environment in the crowded skies over Syria.

“I’m thinking how do I de-escalate this scenario to the best of my ability and also keep us in a safe position while doing so,” said the second pilot involved in last week's encounter, a 30-year-old captain.

After the Syrian bombing in the off-limits area, the United States put round-the-clock combat air patrols over Hasakah, and prepared its pilots to take action should the Syrians attack American forces.

Friday's incident, as described by commanders here, began in the afternoon, when a Syrian aircraft was spotted entering the airspace around Hasakah, and the pair of F-22s, already in the area, raced toward them.

The captain said he quickly got on a common radio frequency in an effort to reach the Syrian aircraft, asking the pilot to identify himself and state his intentions. There was no response.

U.S. commanders also contacted the Russians by phone to seek information, but the Russians were unaware of the Syrian action.

At that point the only way to get information was to have the American pilots approach the Syrian planes, Su-24 Fencers, to determine if they were armed or dropping bombs.

The American pilots asked permission to get closer to the Syrian aircraft to determine if they were carrying weapons on their wings or appeared to be attacking ground targets. Normally pilots are under orders to keep their distance from Russian or Syrian planes to avoid a miscalculation.

Permission was granted. One of the F-22s watched as the other maneuvered behind the Syrian aircraft to get a closer look. After about 15 minutes, the Syrian jet left the area, apparently unaware it was being followed.

Moments later a second Syrian jet entered the airspace. The American pilots repeated the sequence. Neither of the Syrian planes appeared to be carrying weapons, the pilots said.

In the air command center in Qatar, which oversees air operations in the Middle East, Maj. Gen. Jay Silveria said he was prepared to order the pilots to down the Syrian aircraft if they threatened coalition forces. “I wouldn’t have hesitated,” he said.

“All I needed at that point to shoot them down was a report from the ground that they were being attacked,” Silveria said. “We were in a perfect position to execute that with some pretty advanced weaponry.”

But reports from the ground and the American pilots confirmed that the Syrian aircraft did not drop bombs and appeared to be transiting through the area. Syria has an air base in the region, and it is not uncommon for them to fly over the area.

The F-22 is a stealth aircraft, and pilots are trained to avoid being seen by their adversaries. Commanders are considering more overt tactics in the future to send a message to the Syrians.

“From now on if it happens, it’s get out to where they can visually see us,” Corcoran said.

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FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
So where do I pick up my key for the "Executive Washroom", of the Sino Defense Forum! LOL

Fancy Soap and Towels that smell good, uuummmhhhh, almost like clean sheets! I do love being clean guys, I don't mind getting filthy dirty when I have to, grease under my nails and the whole nine yards, but when I'm done, I love a nice hot shower!
Good :)

With French wine eventually whiskey but no Vodka hahaha :D and only dudes ... :confused: :)
According last point... presumably not Mr Equation there getting so bored ;)
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Good :)

With French wine eventually whiskey but no Vodka hahaha :D and only dudes ... :confused: :)
According last point... presumably not Mr Equation there getting so bored ;)

and I am completely with Mr. Equation on this, I have no desire to hang out with only dudes, though I really enjoy hanging out with my guy friends, I enjoy being in the company of the fairer sex. I hated the locker room, and didn't enjoy hanging out, without doubt it smelled much worse than "wet dog"! yuck!

few things are more soothing and pleasant than being in the company of attractive, gracious ladies, wearing "Charlie, or White Diamonds". The "Honey Badger" is always clean, and put together, though she never has worn any heavy scent, she assures me that ladies never do the things that "guys" do??? LOL
 
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