JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Good timing !
Good timing !
Zahid
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JF-17 deal to go ahead
The Cabinet on Tuesday approved a proposal by President Maithripala Sirisena to purchase new fighter aircraft and associated weapons for the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF).
Cabinet spokesman Rajitha Senaratne said, the government will call for expressions of interest for the purchase of around 8-12 fighter jets.The fighter aircraft of the SLAF have been aging and it is important to upgrade the equipment to maintain security and be prepared for any unexpected threat, he explained.
The Cabinet approved a proposal by President Sirisena, in his capacity as the Minister of Defence, to obtain expressions of interest from interested aircraft manufacturers, assistant manufacturers, and authorized government agents. The deal will be on a government to government basis.
The announcement came a day after Pakistani Air Force Commander Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman who was in the country for a brief official visit leaving, thus prompting speculations whether pressure mounted from Pakistan’s end to finalize the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft deal which Pakistan is producing in collaboration with China.
This columnist in the 6 December 2015 column revealed that the intended plan to purchase fighter jets from Pakistan has come under fire from India as the latter vehemently opposed the move.
Ceylon Today on its 10 July 2016 edition revealed that Sri Lanka will be shortly concluding the purchase deal with Pakistan for the supply of 10 JF -17 Thunder Multi-role Fighter Jets, with delivery expected in early 2017.
Pakistan has stationed Brigadier Muhammad Bashir in Colombo to work out the details of the deal. That will include financial arrangements.
The deal to purchase this stunning new multi-role fighter from the Pakistan Air Force was held in abeyance under mounting pressure from the highest levels in the Indian Government.
When the deal was first mooted it was expected to be inked in Colombo during Pakistani Premier Nawaz Shariff’s visit in early January this year. The deal included the sale of 10 JF -17 s, each priced at around US$ 35million through a special Line of Credit (LoC). But Shariff’s visit ended with eight Pakistan-Sri Lanka agreements being signed in Colombo during the visit. None were related to defence cooperation or to the JF-17 deal.
SLAF Commander Gagan Bulathsinhala visited Pakistan last year for a reality check on the aircraft at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra, where the PAC and China’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) co-manufacture the fighters.
A highly placed source in the diplomatic corps said India came out strongly against the deal with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
Indian National Security Adviser, Ajit Doval, had personally expressed India’s concerns in connection with the deal to President Maithripala Sirisena and Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.
Doval had personally telephoned President Sirisena and Prime Minister Wickremesinghe and told them outright that New Delhi was against the deal, warning that Sri Lanka will have to face serious repercussions if the deal was sealed with Pakistan.
Sri Lanka made a compromise offer to purchase three naval ships from India as suasion for India to desist from objecting to the deal with Pakistan. This, however, was not favoured by India, and New Delhi maintained the pressure instead.
The Sri Lankan Defence Ministry then asked India for 10 JF-17 aircraft or a similar fighter jet. India came up with a counter deal offering the SL Government a credit line to purchase alternative combat aircraft subject to the condition that Sri Lanka could buy the aircraft from any country other than Pakistan.
Pakistan however maintained a low profile and renewed their offer stating that they would give one 10 F-7 combat craft free if Sri Lanka makes an outright purchase on the initial deal.
The finalization of the deal was gradually put off following the low key visit of Indian Foreign Secretary
Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to Colombo ahead of the Pakistan Premier’s visit in January 2016.
The deal was apparently opened when former Air Force Commander Jayalath Weerakkody was serving as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in Pakistan.
However, India is also likely to bid for the supply with India offering indigenously made Tejas Light Combat Aircraft."
Apparently, rumors are that India even offered a credit line for Korean T-50. But the source is from PAF, so take it with a grain of salt.
JF-17 deal to go ahead
The Cabinet on Tuesday approved a proposal by President Maithripala Sirisena to purchase new fighter aircraft and associated weapons for the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF).
Cabinet spokesman Rajitha Senaratne said, the government will call for expressions of interest for the purchase of around 8-12 fighter jets.The fighter aircraft of the SLAF have been aging and it is important to upgrade the equipment to maintain security and be prepared for any unexpected threat, he explained.
The Cabinet approved a proposal by President Sirisena, in his capacity as the Minister of Defence, to obtain expressions of interest from interested aircraft manufacturers, assistant manufacturers, and authorized government agents. The deal will be on a government to government basis.
The announcement came a day after Pakistani Air Force Commander Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman who was in the country for a brief official visit leaving, thus prompting speculations whether pressure mounted from Pakistan’s end to finalize the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft deal which Pakistan is producing in collaboration with China.
This columnist in the 6 December 2015 column revealed that the intended plan to purchase fighter jets from Pakistan has come under fire from India as the latter vehemently opposed the move.
Ceylon Today on its 10 July 2016 edition revealed that Sri Lanka will be shortly concluding the purchase deal with Pakistan for the supply of 10 JF -17 Thunder Multi-role Fighter Jets, with delivery expected in early 2017.
Pakistan has stationed Brigadier Muhammad Bashir in Colombo to work out the details of the deal. That will include financial arrangements.
The deal to purchase this stunning new multi-role fighter from the Pakistan Air Force was held in abeyance under mounting pressure from the highest levels in the Indian Government.
When the deal was first mooted it was expected to be inked in Colombo during Pakistani Premier Nawaz Shariff’s visit in early January this year. The deal included the sale of 10 JF -17 s, each priced at around US$ 35million through a special Line of Credit (LoC). But Shariff’s visit ended with eight Pakistan-Sri Lanka agreements being signed in Colombo during the visit. None were related to defence cooperation or to the JF-17 deal.
SLAF Commander Gagan Bulathsinhala visited Pakistan last year for a reality check on the aircraft at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra, where the PAC and China’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) co-manufacture the fighters.
A highly placed source in the diplomatic corps said India came out strongly against the deal with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to purchase 10 JF-17 combat aircraft.
Indian National Security Adviser, Ajit Doval, had personally expressed India’s concerns in connection with the deal to President Maithripala Sirisena and Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.
Doval had personally telephoned President Sirisena and Prime Minister Wickremesinghe and told them outright that New Delhi was against the deal, warning that Sri Lanka will have to face serious repercussions if the deal was sealed with Pakistan.
Sri Lanka made a compromise offer to purchase three naval ships from India as suasion for India to desist from objecting to the deal with Pakistan. This, however, was not favoured by India, and New Delhi maintained the pressure instead.
The Sri Lankan Defence Ministry then asked India for 10 JF-17 aircraft or a similar fighter jet. India came up with a counter deal offering the SL Government a credit line to purchase alternative combat aircraft subject to the condition that Sri Lanka could buy the aircraft from any country other than Pakistan.
Pakistan however maintained a low profile and renewed their offer stating that they would give one 10 F-7 combat craft free if Sri Lanka makes an outright purchase on the initial deal.
The finalization of the deal was gradually put off following the low key visit of Indian Foreign Secretary
Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to Colombo ahead of the Pakistan Premier’s visit in January 2016.
The deal was apparently opened when former Air Force Commander Jayalath Weerakkody was serving as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in Pakistan.
However, India is also likely to bid for the supply with India offering indigenously made Tejas Light Combat Aircraft."
Apparently, rumors are that India even offered a credit line for Korean T-50. But the source is from PAF, so take it with a grain of salt.
Let's wait for more news first.
Hyperwarp
Captain
^^^
Here is the original article:
There is no news from the Ministry of Defense or the official GoSL spokesperson.
If they are going to spend USD 35 million per A/C people here are going to be royally pissed!
This is not the time to waste money on hanger queens. Modernization of the air-force can wait. We are already facing a huge debt burden due to 30 years of war along with mismanagement and corruption. New govt was elected on the promise of good-governance. I myself will take to the streets if they try to go ahead with this . If they want to spend money on the military, key areas are, Special units, Intelligence units and most importantly welfare of veterans. Recently our disabled vets took to the streets due to poor or complete lack of support. WTF!
My blunt comment to the SLAF is "NO THANK YOU" to shinny newhanger queens, fighter jets!
I honestly hope the Indians will literally put a gun to the GoSL's head and say "No! You are NOT buying this %^&*"
Here is the original article:
There is no news from the Ministry of Defense or the official GoSL spokesperson.
If they are going to spend USD 35 million per A/C people here are going to be royally pissed!
This is not the time to waste money on hanger queens. Modernization of the air-force can wait. We are already facing a huge debt burden due to 30 years of war along with mismanagement and corruption. New govt was elected on the promise of good-governance. I myself will take to the streets if they try to go ahead with this . If they want to spend money on the military, key areas are, Special units, Intelligence units and most importantly welfare of veterans. Recently our disabled vets took to the streets due to poor or complete lack of support. WTF! My blunt comment to the SLAF is "NO THANK YOU" to shinny new
I honestly hope the Indians will literally put a gun to the GoSL's head and say "No! You are NOT buying this %^&*"
I'm pretty sure India is opposed to the deal not because it has the welfare of SL in mind. I also doubt that India has the influence to actually block anything SL decides to do.
Hyperwarp
Captain
Oh, absolutely. Indian concerns may not be about everyday SL citizens but SL has major strategic importance to India due to its proximity, access to large sea lanes, natural harbors/ports and the general geography of SL. Right in the middle of SL are mountain ranges with height up to 2,500 m. Radar or any surveillance equipment hidden on top of those peaks will give a nice range of view into parts of India. Thats one of the reasons why India opposed the purchase of more power Chinese radars.
India in the past had made sure SL govts that go against its interest gets kicked out of power or at least isolated. RAW has a major presence in SL. The current govt is not going to piss-off the Indians. If for some reason the JF-17 deal goes through, that would have been due to tacit Indian approval.
Whatever the case, as an SL citizen, I am totally against purchasing $35 Million hanger queens. Only way I would accept new fighters for the SLAF is, if it gets get them for free. China in the past provided us with free J-7G variants (F-7GS) and some weapons including PL-5E free.
Zahid
Junior Member
"This leaves the Argentine military with just two types of jet aircraft A-4’s and IA-63’s and both are subsonic, decades old and barely serviceable. Argentina had looked into buying new Gripen’s from Sweden via Brazil but this was vetoed by the United Kingdom which makes a large number of internal components for the aircraft. They had also looked at JF-17’s from China, but the JF-17s proved too expensive to modify."
Given that the source is UK defence, I am not too sure of the veracity of the claim about JF-17 being hard to modify.
What must-have modifications could Argentines need? Range maybe? Or availability and integration of Western avionics?
@Miragedriver ?
Given that the source is UK defence, I am not too sure of the veracity of the claim about JF-17 being hard to modify.
What must-have modifications could Argentines need? Range maybe? Or availability and integration of Western avionics?
@Miragedriver ?
Quite. This is of course political. Ambassador Bhadrakumar has over the last few years repeatedly commented on Indian bullying of Nepal, Myanmar and especially Sri Lanka - with respect to the Chinese harbour project and to the buying of JF-17's - and has concluded that this bullying has lost its effectiveness.