FFG 054/054A Thread

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adeptitus

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chicket9 said:
Funny thing is that the model for Type 054A has 2x Type 730 CIWS.
If so, that is quite a lot of CIWS power for a frigate sized ship (considering most Western Frigates only have one CIWS mount). This would increase the 054A's survivability.

If you look at the amount of weapons being crammed on small ships these days, the size of the craft isn't always indicative of its offensive armaments. O_O

For example the Israeli Sa'ar 5 Corvette is 1,200 tons, and is armed with 8 x Harpoons, 8 x Gabriel anti-ship missiles, 2 x 32-cel VLS Barak missile launchers, 1 x CIWS gun, 6 x torpedos, helicopter deck, plus hanger for up to 2 helicopters. That's more weapons than what the 3,600 ton La Fayette class Frigates carry, or even some destroyers twice that weight.

Another example is the 1,050 ton Russian Bora-class Corvette, armed with 8 x 3M-80E Moskit SSMs, 1 x Osa-MA SAM system w/40 missiles, 1 x 76mm or 100mm gun, 2 x AK-630 CIWS guns, plus various countermeasures and 4x decoy rocket launchers. That's the same number of Moskit SSM's carried by the 8,000 ton Sovremenniy!

IMO the PLA tends to lean toward domestic production (either licensed copies or reverse enginnering), using foreign purchases only for stop-gap measures. Replacing the AK-630 with domestically-made Type 730 CIWS follows this trend.

In the future, I wouldn't be surprised if the PLA copy Kashtan concept and incorporate 1-2 x 30mm gatling guns with SAMs:
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MIGleader

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Adeptitus, weve already seen some experimental ld-2000 units fitted with 6 ty-90 missles. Perhaps in the future well see this CIWS package go to sea.
 

swimmerXC

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Cleaner shot of 054A
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MIGleader

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i believe it is 32, carried 4x8 on a forward VLS launcher. At least thats what the model shows.
 

Jeff Head

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tphuang said:
054 is a much larger hull than Jiangwei III and 054A is an even larger hull. You can't expect to increase the hull size from 2250 tonnes to 4500 tonnes overnight. You need an intermediate class. Besides, 054 still has the task of doing ASW in PLA.
So, the 054A will displace 4500 tons? It will be interesting to see what her loadout is.

Don't the existing two 054s displace 3400 tons or so each?
 

tphuang

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Jeff Head said:
So, the 054A will displace 4500 tons? It will be interesting to see what her loadout is.

Don't the existing two 054s displace 3400 tons or so each?
nobody knows what it really is, I was simply using some of the estimates from certain posters on Chinese forums who were guessing the width and height of 054A compared to 054. but you'd think it would have to be a lot larger to support the 32 cell VLS + the sensors needed for it.
 

kooe

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so china will adopt the hot launch system over the cold launch system?
 

MIGleader

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I guess so...the only reason cold-launch was adopted on the 52c was probably beccause China did not have enough experience with the complex piping involved with hot luanch, or simply wanted to save time.
 

kooe

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what if the system on aboard of 054A FFG is cold launching system? coz i seen russia has a cold VLS similar in shape of MK41 VLS....
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