Brother of Ling Jihua Reveals China's nuclear launch code and top secrets to US

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Of course, that's assuming he's under the protection of the FBI at all. Could be that the original articles were completely fabricated, or it could be that Ling is trying to save his own ass.
He definitely wants to save his own ass; a person greedy enough to even think about selling out his country for personal purposes has nothing but his own ass on his mind. He's trying to soothe over the Chinese community so he doesn't get drowned in spit every time he tries to get some baozi from the Chinese supermarket LOL.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
Well, Ling Wancheng has issued a statement via his attorney:

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Gregory S. Smith, a Washington attorney and former associate White House counsel to President Bill Clinton, told Reuters he has been retained by Ling Wancheng. He said that Ling Wancheng is in the United States but declined to say whether his client has applied for asylum and whether he is talking to U.S. authorities.

Ling Wancheng had not previously issued any statements or confirmed that he remained in the United States or was represented by counsel.

Smith, speaking by telephone from his Washington office, said Ling Wancheng was upset by the recent allegations. They had appeared in the Washington Free Beacon and later in the Financial Times.

Smith said he had been authorized by Ling Wancheng to make the following statement: "The absurd rumors that he is in possession of a large number of secrets, including keyboard nuclear codes, and rumors that he has handed over state secrets to the U.S. government, reported by media outlets, is a baseless lie and a groundless defamation, and he reserves his right through me to take action as appropriate."

Smith added that his client, an avid golfer, "came to the U.S. to share golf secrets, not state secrets."


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As I said before, there is a line between treason and political distension, a line that I believe Ling Jihua and Ling Wancheng clearly understand and there is no need/reason for them to cross. Besides, I doubt Ling Jihua has easy access to the operational level details of national security matters, critical as his position was within the party apparatus.


If he believe he is not guilty, go back to China. Easy. Proof your innocence.
 

SpicySichuan

Senior Member
Registered Member
If he believe he is not guilty, go back to China. Easy. Proof your innocence.
Unfortunately under the current Chinese legal system and political situation (pretty every official has some wrong-doings in the past, big or small), it is nearly impossible to proof your own innocence. If you are an official in China, your always have something others could use to get you prosecuted. I have a distant friend in Guangzhou who's father is in the local government. He told me that before Xi came to power, you HAVE to be either corrupt or slept with other women (and make such dirty secrets known to your boss) if you have to get promoted. Since other officials are corrupt, you have to be corrupt as well in order to earn their trust. Corruption is/was the institutionalized checks-and-balance within the CCP. They are also weapons during political struggles. As a result, every official has some dirty secrets. Once he or she gets arrested, there would be not such thing as "innocence." If you are really well-connected, while the government still needs you, you might be given a light sentence or simply being fired. Then you will be put under house arrest, while still technically (if not forcefully) employed by the state.
I still don't know where Xi is going. However, given the amount of troubles he has run into simply trying to deal with Ling Jihua, you can tell that it is not very easy to fix a system in which nearly everyone has vested interests in some degrees of checks and balance by means of corruption. Nothing really happened to Zhou Yongkang other than "life sentence," despite rumors of Zhou running over his wife with a military trust (a PLA Captain in a pub told me this), along with keeping hundreds of firearms to stage a coup, possibly planning to assassinate Xi. On the other hand, if you know how to use and maintain your connections and political influence, then corruption is not just a tool of checks and balance, but also a tool for you to satisfy your lust for even more power, wealth, and sex. Think about Bo Xilai sleeping with 10 women at once. That was some true feudalistic manchu official right there. Unless you are super smart and careless about people's lives/morality (willing to kill, steal, and lie to your own compatriots and fellow Party comrades), China is not a place for you to be civil servants. Despite the Communist Revolution, the domestic political culture and climate in China remain very feudalistic and zero-sum. One the other hand, the morality in China lies in loyalty toward one's family and clique. You can betray your nation (like Ling), but you never betray your father or head of your clique/Guanxi network (exception: Zhou killed his wife because she was a woman, which tells you something about the fact that sexism is still big in China, especially how people with power and wealth see having more than one women as sex toys is a sign of prestige). There is a TV show called Nirvana on Fire 琅琊榜. Although the background was set in ancient times, the TV show is a still a relatively good example of Chinese political culture. Ultimately, it is not realistic to demand China to follow the path of liberal democracy at this moment, but what I have written above are just the problems the Middle Kingdom still struggles with, while trying to become a modern nation. Hopefully that explains something about Ling Jihua.
 

solarz

Brigadier
I have a distant friend in Guangzhou who's father is in the local government. He told me that before Xi came to power, you HAVE to be either corrupt or slept with other women (and make such dirty secrets known to your boss) if you have to get promoted. Since other officials are corrupt, you have to be corrupt as well in order to earn their trust.
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There is a TV show called Nirvana on Fire 琅琊榜. Although the background was set in ancient times, the TV show is a still a relatively good example of Chinese political culture.

Funny you should mention 琅玡榜, because the entire show is about putting justice and personal integrity above the pursuit of power.

No one is forcing those officials to seek promotion. If they are willing to abandon their integrity to get promoted, then they have no excuse.

It's important to realize that although corruption is endemic in Chinese bureauracy, there also exists plenty of civil functionaries that are unwilling to compromise their principles. Part of the purpose of Xi's campaign against corruption would be to allow these kinds of people to have better opportunities.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
He definitely wants to save his own ass; a person greedy enough to even think about selling out his country for personal purposes has nothing but his own ass on his mind. He's trying to soothe over the Chinese community so he doesn't get drowned in spit every time he tries to get some baozi from the Chinese supermarket LOL.

Why would the chinese community spit on him in the US? not to get off topic but if you are an American citizen you should be loyal to the US not China.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Why would the chinese community spit on him in the US? not to get off topic but if you are an American citizen you should be loyal to the US not China.

Because, if the charges were true, then Ling is a traitor. If Ling was a US citizen sent to spy on China, then it would at least be understandable, but Ling is a Chinese citizen who, again if the charges were true, betrayed his country for personal gain.

It's not a question of loyalty, but a question of morality.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Because, if the charges were true, then Ling is a traitor. If Ling was a US citizen sent to spy on China, then it would at least be understandable, but Ling is a Chinese citizen who, again if the charges were true, betrayed his country for personal gain.

It's not a question of loyalty, but a question of morality.

Traitor to China not the US but since he is in the US it shouldn't matter. If it's a morality question then everyone should be spitting on him not just the Chinese Americans. Anyway I was just thinking out loud not trying to argue for the sake of argument! I hate those LOL
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Traitor to China not the US but since he is in the US it shouldn't matter. If it's a morality question then everyone should be spitting on him not just the Chinese Americans. Anyway I was just thinking out loud not trying to argue for the sake of argument! I hate those LOL
Point of order, one could only commit treason against one's own country, so your statement "Traitor to China but the US..." doesn't make sense.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Point of order, one could only commit treason against one's own country, so your statement "Traitor to China but the US..." doesn't make sense.
That was exactly my point. Since he is in the US or at least seek US protection, from the standpoint of the US he ISN'T a traitor.
 
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