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"The Circus is in town", but Russia knows how to play this game, but none of this changes the fact that PAK-FA is going critical? In order to produce an aircraft of the fifth generation, you HAVE TO HAVE absolute commitment from day one. The F-22 had some opposition and hurdles along the way, but it was driven by excellence from day one.

There is a great deal of difference between a 75 million dollar SU-30MKI, and a 250 million dollar FGFA. That 2 seat PAK-FA will take everything to get it right, playing around and money/capability games are going to deliver a disappointing wanna-bee? They need to get their krap together and get off their butts in order to get this airplane right, if they don't, it will never deliver on any of its possibilities.
 

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A lot of GREAT pictures there. Feel free to take a look.

Here's one of the Vikramaditya showing off some of the self defense weaponry thay have begub to add to her.

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...and another showing 14 Mig-29Ks on her deck at once.

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Lot's more at the link above.
 
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Hyperwarp

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aksha

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@antiterror13,

the mission computers and radar processing units of the su 30 mki are Indian both in design and manufacture, if thats what you mean.

same goes for the jaguar darin 3

both thanks to experiance gained from the Tejas programme.

Single Crystal Blades for the Al 31 FP and the Al 31 itself are manufactured in India ,

but almost all raw materials come from russia, as was agreed between India and Russia
 

FORBIN

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The fifth edition of 'Exercise IBSAMAR' between Brazil, India and South Africa begins on Friday off the country's west coast with the harbour phase being conducted at Goa.

This is the first time that 'Exercise IBSAMAR' is being conducted in Indian waters and it will conclude on February 29. All previous editions were held off South Africa, Navy said in a release.

The primary aim of this exercise is to increase interoperability amongst the three navies as well as develop common understanding and procedures for maritime security operations, it said.
"Initiated in 2006, 'Exercise IBSAMAR' is the most visible manifestation of this convergence of democratic values, economic interests and maritime cooperation.

"The scope of 'Exercise IBSAMAR V' includes wide-ranging professional interactions during the harbour phase and a diverse range of operational activities at sea during the sea phase," the release added.

The thrust of exercises at sea this year would be on anti-submarine warfare (ASW), surface firings, air defences, visit board search and seizure (VBSS), flying operations, search and rescue and tactical procedures.

During 'Exercise IBSAMAR-V', the Indian Navy will be represented by INS Mumbai - an indigenous designed and built guided missile destroyer -, INS Trishul - a stealth frigate - and INS Shalki, a Shishumar class submarine.

In addition, various fast attack craft, Sea Harriers and Mig 29K fighter aircraft, dornier maritime patrol aircraft and integral rotary wing helicopters are also scheduled to participate in the trilateral exercise.

The Brazilian Navy would be represented by Brazilian Naval Ship Amazonas, with embarked special forces, commanded by Commander Alessander Felipe Imamura Carneiro.

The South African Navy would be represented by South African Naval Ship SAS Spioenkop with integral helicopter and embarked special forces, Commanded by Captain MA Boucher.

Both the ships are on return passage after participating in the International Fleet Review held at Visakhapatnam earlier this month.

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And so the saga continues...

[size=14pt]No Rafale Deal Unless Price Is Right: Parrikar[/size]
(Source: Business Standard; published Feb 18, 2016)
By Ajai Shukla

NEW DELHI --- Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar bluntly stated on Thursday that negotiations for buying 36 Rafale fighters from French aerospace vendor, Dassault, were deadlocked on the issue of price, and that no deal would be signed until the price was right.

Well-informed defence ministry sources that are close to the negotiation say there is a wide gulf between the two sides. "The difference between what France is demanding and what India is willing to pay is too large to bridge easily - about 25 per cent."

Business Standard understands that Dassault has quoted about Rs 91,548 crore, while Indian negotiators are refusing to go above Rs 68,499 crore.

Parrikar told India Today TV: "Price is the problem which has to be resolved. Unless I get the right price, I cannot sign."

Debunking recent media articles that a deal was imminent, most recently in Hindustan Times on February 11, Parrikar said ironing out the remaining issues would take "a few months".

Pressed on the question of time-frame, Parrikar responded: "You can't commit yourself to a time, because this is not a negotiation for a few hundred crores. This is thousands of crores. I should not… put a time line on my price negotiation."

On January 25, during his visit to Delhi, French President Francois Hollande declared after signing an inter-governmental agreement for the supply of 36 Rafales, "There are some financial issues that will be sorted out in a couple of days…" It now appears he may have been speaking figuratively.

On January 27, French ambassador to New Delhi, Francois Richier, put a deadline of four months for the price to be negotiated.

On Thursday, Parrikar also confirmed that India had demanded offsets worth 50 per cent of the deal value, and that Dassault had agreed to that condition.

"We have resolved all the other issues. There were terms of guarantees, there were terms of supply, there were terms of how it will be done", said Parrikar.

The defence minister denied that the window was open for buying more Rafale fighters, beyond the 36 being currently negotiated. "As of now, the negotiation is for 36 (fighters). There are many possibilities, but this deal is for 36", he said.

When Prime Minister Narendra Modi, on a visit to Paris last April, requested for 36 Rafales, New Delhi and had Paris agreed the price would be less than what Dassault had quoted in response to the Indian tender of 2007 for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA). Of those 126 fighters, the first 18 were to be supplied in "flyaway condition", i.e. fully built. Since 36 Rafales are now being bought in "flyaway condition", their per-piece price must be lower than what Dassault quoted for those 18 fighters.

The Indian Air Force had chosen the Rafale on January 31, 2012, in India's tender for 126 MMRCA aircraft. However, in protracted price negotiations that followed, the defence ministry found problems in Dassault's financial bid. Eventually, Modi chose to abandon the MMRCA tender, and instead buy 36 Rafales over-the-counter.

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