Modern Non-PRC, non-US, non-Sukhoi fighter/bombers

FORBIN

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Mica : 6 as on this pics and 2 replace Fuel tanks but in more possible eventualy at less 2 others for range matter better max 6 with 1/3 fuel tanks
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RPL : fuel tanks in litres.

Navy variant Rafale M have 13 hard points vs 14 for AF variants Rafale B, C.

For Meteor number for French Rafale maybe now 4 initialy 2 max.

Perseus is only a project right now i think interesting but not before 2020's.
 

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FORBIN

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A few questions, if you know, Forbin:
Again for the loadout, is 3xGBU-12 + Pod also possible?
You talk for Mirage 2000D with new weapons load good remark yes possible.
In test on the picture but now very fast ready...

And first picture with Mirage 2000N with 4 GBU-12, used for the first time 2 days ago in Syria
Mainly with this updates a patrol of 2 Mirage 2000 one D with designator and one N without carry 7 bombs before 4 clearly better.
Possible ofc MK-82 same weight 250 kg less accurate but cheap.
Mirage 2000D in 2/3 years get a gun in pod.

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The Mirage 2000N os Squadron 2/4 Lafayette, who participated in the raid on November 15, 2015 Raqqa (Syria), used for the first time a new payload configuration: in addition to two GBU-12 Paveway II laser guide installed on a double pole, in the center point under the fuselage, the aircraft also outweighed two guided bombs on the lateral points before fuselage slightly behind the air inlets.

The Air Force had so far been reluctant to install GBU there, he seems due to the risk of ingestion of the homing of the ammunition which is found in front of the entrance 'air.

This configuration has probably also obliged to back the installation of the dual carriage under the fuselage to find an acceptable balance.

One can imagine that the Mirage 2000D not too long in heavy use this configuration, but with a caveat: the point of carrying right front of the aircraft will remain reserved for laser designation pod and 2000D will have to settle for three guided munitions.

Doubling the carrying capacity of Mirage 2000N, two devices would have participated in the mission of yesterday, would have resulted in total in theory to carry a maximum of 30 bombs of 250 kg (eight hunters only have been committed contrary what has been announced in the official press release): eight for the two Mirage 2000N, four for the two Mirage 2000D and 24 for the four Rafale. In fact, it seems that the Rafale were content four bombs each, for a total of 28 bombs available to the raid that was twenty separate targets.
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FORBIN

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o_O :=)
I would like have with/ together because exist Jeff have do severalsthreads for US F-15/16 etc... exist also Sukhoi normaly no Su-27 to add, idealy Mig also and here the rest, maybe you can add F-2 maybe or new title Modern Fighters except US and Russians about...
 

Jeff Head

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Forbin, we simply cannot have a separate thread for every fighter type.

We have threads for the major Chinese aircraft.

We have Threads for the Major US aircraft.

we have a thread for the PAKFA.

We have threads for the major Sukhoi aircraft.

But we cannot have a thread for every single individual type.

I am going to rename this thread. "Modern Non-PRC, non-US, non-Sukhoi fighters"

It can be used as a catch all for the rest.

At some point we will probably have individual threads for individual 5th gen stealth fighters that go into production as well...but that will be about the extent of it.

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Scratch

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Tornado in test with 8 GBU-39

I really like this one, I didn't exspect possible SDB integration to be so far along already.

There's still room for improvement in that airframe. It could then carry a Pod, 1x GBU-54 / Paveway IV, 2x GBU-39 and 3x Brimstone (II). A nice mix.

An improved countermeassure-dispencer pod is in development I think with integrated optical MAWS. And further avionics upgrade are also coming online in the german fleet at least. For 83 remaining aircraft I think.
 
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