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Erdogan'sTwistedLogic:S-400MustNotShootDownTurkishJetsOverSyria

In what is a prime example of twisted logic, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Russia against using its ultra-modern S-400 air defense system to shoot down Turkish fighter jets if they violate Syrian airspace just days after Ankara brought down a Russian Su-24 bomber.


Downing a Turkish warplane over Syrian territory would qualify as aggression, Erdogan told CNN in response to a question on what would happen if a Turkish fighter jet were to stray into Syrian territory.

"This kind of an incident which may happen of course will further push us to take measures. … Of course it will be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it is a natural right of [Turkey] to protect those rights," Erdogan said.



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On Tuesday, a Turkish F-16 shot down the Su-24, claiming that the aircraft violated its airspace. Russian officials and the Su-24 pilot, who survived the crash, insist that the plane did not cross into Turkey. The crew, according to the pilot, did not receive any warning prior to the attack.


The Su-24 was involved in Russia's counterterrorism efforts in Syria aimed at assisting Damascus in its fight against ISIL and other extremist groups trying to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Erdogan refused to apologize for the incident, which Russian President Vladimir Putin referred to as a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists."

In the wake of the Su-24 crash, Russian defense officials decided to send the S-400 system to prevent similar incidents from happening.



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Erdogan'sTwistedLogic:S-400MustNotShootDownTurkishJetsOverSyria

In what is a prime example of twisted logic, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Russia against using its ultra-modern S-400 air defense system to shoot down Turkish fighter jets if they violate Syrian airspace just days after Ankara brought down a Russian Su-24 bomber.


Downing a Turkish warplane over Syrian territory would qualify as aggression, Erdogan told CNN in response to a question on what would happen if a Turkish fighter jet were to stray into Syrian territory.

"This kind of an incident which may happen of course will further push us to take measures. … Of course it will be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it is a natural right of [Turkey] to protect those rights," Erdogan said.



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On Tuesday, a Turkish F-16 shot down the Su-24, claiming that the aircraft violated its airspace. Russian officials and the Su-24 pilot, who survived the crash, insist that the plane did not cross into Turkey. The crew, according to the pilot, did not receive any warning prior to the attack.


The Su-24 was involved in Russia's counterterrorism efforts in Syria aimed at assisting Damascus in its fight against ISIL and other extremist groups trying to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Erdogan refused to apologize for the incident, which Russian President Vladimir Putin referred to as a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists."

In the wake of the Su-24 crash, Russian defense officials decided to send the S-400 system to prevent similar incidents from happening.



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Wrong thread, This belongs to the "What the Heck" Thread
 

Miragedriver

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CRISTINA, THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY ARGENTINA
Until the last day of her term, the current president tries to further complicate the future management of Mauricio Macri

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It is known that the government of Cristina Kirchner, Kirchner and leadership in Argentina has managed to achieved deteriorated the nation to the point it was at just before the previous economic crisis. But today, days after the end of its mandate, it is visible a mile away not only by their recent attitudes, but also for its mandate over the years, which undoubtedly is the worst democratic president in the nation's history.

Not satisfied, after more than a decade of permanence of his "model" ruling Argentina (which resulted in a current inflation of over 30 percent, a higher level of unemployment at 20 percent, a central bank in a state of total deficit , hidden rates and lack of measurement for the past three years poverty ,. However, it is estimated that more than 15 percent of the total population, and a social fracture that split the country in two culturally), Cristina tries to consider as leader of the future opposition to the ruling party's change, and is in plan to boycott the future management of Mauricio Macri.

Within days, the position of the future former President ago, at the first meeting for the transfer was to deny Macri any information, support and communication of the country's situation until 10 December, the date when the candidate will chair the nation. This situation was not unique, but all governors and mayors Kirchner Cristina continued the pattern of trying to obstruct not only the transfer to the new officials, but also the next administration. Allegations of theft, not only of buildings and instruments of state management of the sites, but also the concealment and the disappearance of public records.


One of the most recent cases is that of the mayor of Pinamar, which reported that Intendance vehicles were not working, they had chairs. In addition, senior officials were drinking beer in the commissariat, showing a total lack of professionalism office.


Under the guideline of the President, the ruling party tries to interfere with a vengeance, hatred and disrespect not only to the new management, but people's decision to opt for change. Today, at a special session in the Chamber of Deputies, Kirchner managed to approve more than 91 laws, that all they do is to tie further hands of the next government.

How far in advance Cristina their attempt to poison and further complicate the situation in the country? Not only management left a devastated country, but until the last second plan is to destroy what little is left standing. So Macri management-at a minimum be a challenge with extraordinary difficulties.


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Back to bottling my Grenache
 

Jeff Head

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Active Shooter/s situation in san Bernandino. Multiple injuries/fatalities.. perps dressed in full tactical gear and long guns. Damn!!!
This is ongoing.

I just had a close friend from Southern California text me that there is a “Be on the Lookout,” he heard on a scanner from the San Bernardino Sheriff department that 3 active shooters including a 30 year old Farooq Saeed are at large after killing at least 12 people and possibly more.

That they left a suspicious package behind that is possibly a bomb. Saying do not approach them they have body armor and are heavily armed and were last seen leaving the scene at Waterman Avenue & Orange Show Road in a black S.U.V.

Anybody ever heard of Farooq Saeed?
 

Jeff Head

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Apparently the initial attack was on a Christmas Party that was being held a hall that had been rented to the San Bernadino “Health Dept” for their Christmas Party.

They are saying three shooters. They escaped and there are possibly other attacks at other places since the first one.

Multiple victims...20 or more...now being reported.
 
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