ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

janjak desalin

janjak desalin

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plawolf said:
I'm not sure about the "western strategy" part.[...]
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What I'm observing is the persistent hostile rhetoric intended to both portray Russian actions as somehow irresponsible and to dissuade the Russians from their current strategy. I don't expect that this rhetoric is the only means by which 'the west' will seek to accomplish this. In fact, I expect that they will seek to do so by any means necessary.That said, this attack fits, perfectly, into that modus operandi.

In other words, I don't dissociate the rhetoric from actions taken that could function to accomplish its objectives.

I've watched these guys all since I was a teenager; I've had to; they'll do anything! In 1968 they put out a contract on folks like me that they haven't cancelled yet! Some of us will never forget how they murdered Fred Hampton. Isn't it interesting that Chicago is still a center of such actions? See:
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Anyways ...

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Tomorrow, I hope to get back to the action on the ground. The pace of Loyalist offensive action has slowed in southern Aleppo but picked-up in northern Aleppo, Latakia, Homs, and Damascus. It's getting to be some work to keep up!

btw, how's this for a map of Loyalist positions in southern Aleppo? This thing is huge (though very detaiIed)!
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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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delft I tried to reconstruct this particular conversation; please tell me if I misunderstood, or you in fact reacted to a different part of posts:

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delft said:
This is anti-Syrian propaganda.
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Jura said:
delft how do you know this?
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delft said:
Because the US didn't tell us, weeks ago, that they were bombing tankers delivering Daesh oil to Syria.
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I feel 1 - 3 is the gist of our conversation (and I removed "supplementary" parts like me mentioning Stalingrad to point out to seemingly impossible deals during war-time); is it?

As you can see, I'm trying not to jump to any conclusion, am just asking (Yes or No would do it). Thanks.
 
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vincent

vincent

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Jura said:
delft I tried to reconstruct this particular conversation; please tell me if I misunderstood, or you in fact reacted to a different part of posts:
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Give it a rest. No need to keep beating a dead horse
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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A look at the CSAR mission launched by the Russians.
points 1) because this is all asymmetric with no easily delineated lines of control the mission was basically in trouble from the start.
2) The Chopper was attack first by Triple A the Tow missile was the finisher.
 
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delft

Brigadier
Jura said:
delft I tried to reconstruct this particular conversation; please tell me if I misunderstood, or you in fact reacted to a different part of posts:

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I feel 1 - 3 is the gist of our conversation (and I removed "supplementary" parts like me mentioning Stalingrad to point out to seemingly impossible deals during war-time); is it?

As you can see, I'm trying not to jump to any conclusion, am just asking (Yes or No would do it). Thanks.
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If the US had told us that they were bombing Daesh tankers delivering oil to the Syrian government they might have lied, but if there were such tanker deliveries they would have bombed them, even when they were not bombing those delivering oil to Turkey, and they would have told us all about it. So from the fact that they didn't tell us I concluded that there were no such tankers to bomb.
They might have documentary evidence by now but that can be manufactured. The main point is that there were no tanker deliveries.

I should have formulated more carefully.
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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Iraqi Security Forces advance on Da'ish in Ramadi supported by coalition fighters
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Ru AF strike on IS 'oil storage' near al-Tabaqa ( Raqqa )

French MOD : 3500 troops whose about 2600 for CBG : 1 CVN, 1 DDG, 2 FFG ( 1 Belgian ), 1 CS soon UK DDG Defender arrive and French FFG Aquitaine after.
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