Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

Deino

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There are few more pics but I don't want post them all to flood the thread.:p


No need to worry or to be shy .... just post them here !
Or what is the original source ?

By the way, will this be now the latest iteration of the J-31/FC-31 no. 02 or a completely new design, maybe even upscaled with larger engines ... in the class of the J-20 ?

Deino
 
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taxiya

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It does give an impression that the SAC has been riding all along (ok maybe that is a bit unfair, I did say that it was an impression), first on the J-8, then Su-27 and derivatives, and now J-31.

If J-31 is marketed for low end. Then it only makes sense to acquire them in sufficient numbers. So SAC may be trying to gain by having CAC walk the minefield for them first, then quickly fill at a lower tech level and aim to sell in bulk.

I think maybe it will be better for SAC and CAC to work together in an innovator/manager setting. CAC can concentrating for developing new planes and exploring cutting edge technologies + some manufacturing , SAC can manage the manufacturing and subsequent maintenance/incremental upgrades, and the different variants. They both can share profits.
You seem to forget that SAC and CAC are branches of AVIC which is owned by the state. Just like Passat and Audi are to VW. They don't play each others, they do what AVIC(the state) tell them to do. This is what I always try to remind friends in this forum to remember when discussing relations between SAC/J31 and CAC/J20. :)
 

Alvaritus

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hey guys, just read in Janes that an AVIC representative (AVIC not SAC), who is expecting FC-31 IOC around 2022.
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The Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) plans to perform the maiden flight of a production-standard FC-31 'fifth-generation' fighter before the end of the decade, with full-operational capability to be declared a few years later, a company official said on 8 November.

Speaking at the Dubai Airshow 2015, vice-president of China's National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation Li Yuhai said that with a prototype J-31 'Falcon Eagle' having been flying since 2012, a production-model FC-31 dubbed 'King of the Hawks' will fly in 2019 before initial operating capability is declared in 2022, with full operating capability following in 2022.

As noted by Yuhai, this timetable depends on a customer launch being signed up in the near future. Billed by AVIC as an export fighter, the FC-31 has received interest from Pakistan, with IHS Jane's reporting earlier this year that the Pakistan Air Force has a potential requirement for 30 to 40 of the fighters. While Yuhai said AVIC is in discussions with the People's Liberation Army Air Force, he did not provide details.

AVIC's press conference at the Dubai Airshow marked the first time that the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation FC-31 fighter had been discussed by the corporation outside of China. Although neither Yuhai nor any of the other officials present took questions, the press conference did reveal further specifications and characteristics for the single-seat, twin-engine multirole combat aircraft.

As noted by the aircraft's chief designer, Lin Peng, the FC-31 is 16.8 m in length, has a 11.5-m wing span, is 4.8 m in height, and has a maximum take-off weight of 25,000 kg.

The aircraft is fitted with 10 stores points (four internal, six external) and has a loading weight of 8 tonnes (2 tonnes internal and 6 tonnes external). Possible weapons fits include an internal gun, PL-9 air-to-air missiles (AAMs), SD-10A (improved) AAMs, small-diameter bombs, and export air-to-surface missiles.

EDIT: 1 caveat "As noted by Yuhai, this timetable depends on a customer launch being signed up in the near future..."
 

cloyce

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In this pic, J-31 has side weapon bays. But does it actually have the space to build them into it?
 

Jeff Head

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GrassRoot and EastSun's finally finish their artwork.This is what they think the next generation Shipborne fighter jet will looks like.( Disclaimer: Not official just their own work)[
Hmmm...compare:


J-31-Navy-03.jpg
Chinese carrier stealth aircraft

F35C-03.jpg
US Navy F-35C stealth aircraft

J-31-Navy-02.jpg
Chinese carrier stealth aircraft

F35C-02.jpg
US Navy F-35C stealth aircraft

J-31-Navy-01.jpg
Chinese carrier stealth aircraft

F35C-01.jpg
US Navy F-35C stealth aircraft

I know here are some strong differences.

IE. Two engines on the Chinese aircraft to one on the F-35C. Side bays on the Chinese aircraft, with the large lower bay on the F-35C.

Still, it is clear that the fuselage form is strikingly similar.
 
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JayBird

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No need to worry or to be shy .... just post them here !
Or what is the original source ?

By the way, will this be now the latest iteration of the J-31/FC-31 no. 02 or a completely new design, maybe even upscaled with larger engines ... in the class of the J-20 ?

Deino

Here is the rest of the pics and links to the thread. GrassRoot say is the same size as J-15.
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