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delft

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International power plays aside it's about time someone significantly bolstered the most legitimate, most genuinely homegrown, and the least bad option in the Syrian civil war - the official Syrian government. Any other faction winning at best results in a failed state and at worse legitimizes violent religious extremists and provides a base for a truly terrorism-based state, a serious threat to the rest of the world. However this development alone is probably not enough to defeat the powers supporting ISIS and their ilk, I hope the US sees what is at stake here and takes more serious, focused steps against ISIS and its supporters.
I was very busy yesterday but IIRC BBC news said that US blamed Russia for destabilizing Syria by supporting the government - clearly against the terrorists. The Syria opposition parties recently met with government representatives in Moscow but the terrorists weren't represented there.
 

broadsword

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It is obvious who is on the wrong side of history. That is one more reason the US should stop faking their sanctimonious high ground. And yet some common people have the temerity to blame others for their own wrongdoings.

Correct me if I am wrong, I think none of the Presidential candidates has touched on how to deal with ISIL. But I believe we can rule out ever sending any sizable ground troops to wipe them out because the ISIL is in control of such a vast territory and they operate differently from Saddam Hussein's army, thereby mitigating the firepower of the US' land forces. Hence the US has to settle for drone strikes.
 

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An Israeli article about Russian support for Syria:
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Delft, there is a lot of talk at the moment of a direct Russian in Syria taking place right now. I actually came here to see if anyone else had picked up on this.

Bhadrakumar did a lead article for Asia Times yesterday and and I found another good item on defence blog.

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The most interesting part from Bhadrakumar is the proposition that this is the result of a tacit agreement between Washington and Moscow and which is why the US has withdrawn its Patriot missiles to prevent attacks on Russian Aircraft.
 

delft

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Recently US "confirmed" the Russian intervention while President Putin denied it was taking place. The Saker described the intervention as sketched in the ynet article as nonsensical and indeed only one based on a port makes logistically any sense.
I think the intervention was invented to try to spoil the, very good, diplomatic relations between Russia and Saudi Arabia.
 

delft

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Delft, there is a lot of talk at the moment of a direct Russian in Syria taking place right now. I actually came here to see if anyone else had picked up on this.

Bhadrakumar did a lead article for Asia Times yesterday and and I found another good item on defence blog.

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The most interesting part from Bhadrakumar is the proposition that this is the result of a tacit agreement between Washington and Moscow and which is why the US has withdrawn its Patriot missiles to prevent attacks on Russian Aircraft.
Bhadrakumar is always interesting and he is clearly thinking much farther than I am but even he doesn't mention all factors playing here as the political and economic situation in Turkey and other economic and financial factors.
I saw that Germany is taking its Patriots out of Turkey but I hadn't yet seen US is doing the same. What is happening within the Beltway is probably more complex than the old subject of Kremlinology.
I expect that Russia is preparing for an intervention while delaying it as long as possible. Coordination with Iran would be valuable and Russian aircraft might be based there but preferably after the Iran nuclear agreement has been decided on by US Congress. And the political developments in Riyadh are very difficult to observe from the outside but of great importance.
 

broadsword

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Vladimir Putin confirms Russian military involvement in Syria's civil war
Russian president talks of desire for "international coalition" to fight terrorism and extremism and does not rule out possibility of direct military intervention in Syria

04 Sep 2015

Russia is providing “serious” training and logistical support to the Syrian army, Vladimir Putin has said, in the first public confirmation of the depth of Russia’s involvement in Syria's civil war.

Commenting on reports that Russian combat troops have been deployed to Syria, the Russian president said discussion of direct military intervention is “so far premature,” but did not rule out that such a step could be taken in future.

“To say we're ready to do this today - so far it's premature to talk about this. But we are already giving Syria quite serious help with equipment and training soldiers, with our weapons,” the state-owned RIA Novosti news agency quoted Mr Putin as saying when asked about Russian intervention in Syria during an economic forum in Vladivostok.

"We really want to create some kind of an international coalition to fight terrorism and extremism," Mr Putin said.

"To this end, we hold consultations with our American partners - I have personally spoken on the issue with US President Obama."

Russian troops are said to be 'fighting alongside Assad's army against Syrian rebels'Russian troops are said to be 'fighting alongside Assad's army against Syrian rebels' Photo: @ValkryV

Russia has repeatedly used its UN Security Council veto to support Bashar al-Assad throughout the four and a half year-long war, which is believed to have claimed some 250,000 lives. Russia has also been a long-term supplier of arms to the Syrian government, something it now justifies by the need to fight Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).

Speculation is growing that Russia has significantly expanded its involvement in recent months, including with deliveries of advanced weaponry, a raft of spare parts for existing machines, and the deployment of increasing numbers of military advisers and instructors.

Last week Syrian state television released images showing an advanced Russian-built armoured personnel carrier, the BTR-82a, in combat. Videos have also appeared in which troops engaged in combat appear to shout instructions to one another in Russian.

Last week the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth cited western diplomatic sources saying that Russia was on the verge of deploying “thousands” of troops to Syria to establish an airbase from which the Russian air force would fly combat sorties against Isis.

Russian analysts called the Yedioth report far-fetched, pointing to Russian wariness of repeating the American experience in Iraq and the current strain on the Russian military from a covert war in Ukraine.

Most government-connected analysts have previously insisted that Russia’s support for Mr Assad is “strictly political”, and have dismissed reports of military involvement as “madness”.

“It is a canard. A deployment of that size would require approval from the Federation Council [Russia’s upper house of parliament],” said Yevgenny Buzhinsky, a retired Russian general who now heads the PIR analytical centre in Moscow. “As far as I am aware any advisers there do not engage in combat.”

But Mr Putin’s comments chime with experts who say the Russian government would be willing to supply substantial logistical support and advice even if it shies away from large-scale intervention.

“Such things are kept very secret, but there is definitely an adviser and instructor mission there, possibly numbering in the hundreds,” said Pavel Felgenhaeur, an independent commentator on Russian military affairs.

“It definitely includes technical advisers and engineers to maintain sophisticated military equipment, and marines to protect them. There is no way Assad’s jets could still be flying after four years of war without Russian technical assistance,” he said.

Mr Felgenhauer said it was “quite conceivable” that members of the advisory mission occasionally found themselves in combat or had even suffered casualties.

A senior Syrian regime military official who defected in 2012 told the Telegraph that he had personally worked alongside Russian officers, but that in his experience they were there “as experts, not fighters”.

"Most of the operations room and many of the defence lines are planned by Russian experts, so there are extra technical personnel now. They are mainly in Damascus,” the defector said, citing former colleagues who are still serving with the Assad government.

The reports of increased support follow a recent diplomatic offensive in which Russia has attempted to persuade western and Arab governments, as well as members of the Syrian opposition, that Mr Assad should be part of a national unity government and an international alliance to fight Isil.

Mr Putin said on Friday that Mr Assad had agreed to such a deal, “right up to the point of holding early parliament elections and establishing contacts with the so-called healthy opposition and engaging them in governing".

However, Western governments and Syrian rebel leaders have so far insisted that there is no place for Mr Assad in post-war Syria.

In a war riven with barbarity, much of it led by fighters from Isil, Mr Assad’s regime still remains the biggest killer of civilians.

Khaled Khoja, the chairman of Syria's opposition National Coalition, said after a recent meeting with Russian officials in Moscow that there was no question of sharing power with Mr Assad.

Another option debated in foreign policy circles would involve Mr Assad stepping down to be replaced by a mutually acceptable successor.

Russia is said to oppose this view, believing that removal of Assad would lead to the complete collapse of Syria as a state.

The Pentagon said on Friday that it had seen reports of Russia deploying troops and aircraft in Syria, and was "monitoring the situation closely".

As for the possibility of Russia joining the coalition against Isil, Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said the US would "welcome the opportunities for others to join the fight".

However, Mr Cook said "the Assad regime cannot be a partner against the terrorism that it has both curated and then failed to confront effectively".
 

broadsword

Brigadier
Not if the US partners with Russia in the fight against ISIL. Putin said

"We really want to create some kind of an international coalition to fight terrorism and extremism," Mr Putin said.

"To this end, we hold consultations with our American partners - I have personally spoken on the issue with US President Obama."

But speaking of Cold War, are they not still at it?
 
It is obvious who is on the wrong side of history. That is one more reason the US should stop faking their sanctimonious high ground. And yet some common people have the temerity to blame others for their own wrongdoings.

Correct me if I am wrong, I think none of the Presidential candidates has touched on how to deal with ISIL. But I believe we can rule out ever sending any sizable ground troops to wipe them out because the ISIL is in control of such a vast territory and they operate differently from Saddam Hussein's army, thereby mitigating the firepower of the US' land forces. Hence the US has to settle for drone strikes.

Let's face it, the real problem is whether US politicians are willing to prioritize what is good for the US over what is good for its allies but harmful to the US when such tough decisions have to be made. Both Saudi Arabia and Israel have wealthy and influential lobbies and supporters among US policymakers but at least the elected officials should remember which country they are supposed to be serving.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
UAE lost 45 soldiers today many more injured

As I said before this is a failed campaign and will never succeed

Iran will just pop up somewhere else if it's not Yemen

Better to sit at a table and negotiate a deal to bring peace like Obama did

Not good idea to try and push Iran around
 
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