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shen

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So if I am understanding this correctly, basically this system is not able to quad pack like ESSM since the exhaust passes within each canister, interesting.

The requirement for the universal VLS specifically required the ability to quad pack missiles.

It is in the article.

"The cell length or depth is up to 9 meters (29.5 feet) for large missiles, up to 7 meters (22.9 feet) for medium size and up to 3.3 meters (10.8 feet) in length for small missiles. The eight compartments or cells each can hold a single missile, although a requirement also exists for the smaller cell to hold up to four missiles, such as the U.S. Navy’s quad pack arrangement for the Evolved Sea Sparrow missile. The size of each launch cell is 850 millimeters square (33.45 inches square)."
 

SamuraiBlue

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The requirement for the universal VLS specifically required the ability to quad pack missiles.

It is in the article.

"The cell length or depth is up to 9 meters (29.5 feet) for large missiles, up to 7 meters (22.9 feet) for medium size and up to 3.3 meters (10.8 feet) in length for small missiles. The eight compartments or cells each can hold a single missile, although a requirement also exists for the smaller cell to hold up to four missiles, such as the U.S. Navy’s quad pack arrangement for the Evolved Sea Sparrow missile. The size of each launch cell is 850 millimeters square (33.45 inches square)."
How does it stop the other missiles within the canister from miss firing?
Basically you're placing a lit blow torch upright into a solid rocket exhaust.
 

shen

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How does it stop the other missiles within the canister from miss firing?
Basically you're placing a lit blow torch upright into a solid rocket exhaust.

let's move the discussion to a Chinese navy thread if you want to discuss it further.

briefly, they can do it same way Mk57 (also a CCL VLS) quad packs ESSM or come up another way. the new Chinese quad pack missile (from the last Zhuhai airshow) looks like enlarged Tor missile, so it may be cold launched and bypass the issue.
 

Blitzo

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let's move the discussion to a Chinese navy thread if you want to discuss it further.

briefly, they can do it same way Mk57 (also a CCL VLS) quad packs ESSM or come up another way. the new Chinese quad pack missile (from the last Zhuhai airshow) looks like enlarged Tor missile, so it may be cold launched and bypass the issue.

I'm gonna continue the conversation in the anti ship missile thread as it's the most relevant, if anyone wants.
 

Miragedriver

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VORONEZH, September 1 - RIA Novosti. Promising high-speed helicopter (PSV) is developing in the interests of the Defense Ministry, is expected to be released in the series with 2022 and can reach speeds of up to 500 kilometers per hour, said the Chief of the Air and Space Forces (VKS) Russia Viktor Bondarev.

"This work is well underway, and in 2018 due to fly the helicopter demonstrator. Then the end of the (work) - 2021 and 2022 - a series of these helicopters. The speed - up to 500 kilometers per hour," - said Bondarev.

He noted that this rate is set in the tactical and technical requirements on the advanced helicopter.

"If you get more, we will be happy. Of course, this helicopter will solve all the problems that are now solved helicopters of Kamov and Mil. He will take all the best," - said the commander in chief.

While work on the new helicopter is conducted jointly by Mil and Kamov within the holding company "Russian Helicopters".

"And that, and that the firm is involved. Whose win that and will continue to carry out all work on the helicopter", - summed up Bondarev.


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Miragedriver

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Russia expects to get 300-tonne capacity ground effect vehicle by 2020
"We are creating this platform with the prospect for new engines, which will be created in 2018-2020," the
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ZHUKOVSKY (Moscow region), August 26. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry expects to receive by 2020 a new ram wing surface effect vehicle with the carrying capacity of up to 300 tonnes, chief of Russia’s naval aviation Major General Igor Kozhin told reporters on Wednesday.

"I think by 2020 we will get a real platform, which will be operated quite efficiently ... it will lift up to 240-300 tonnes. It’s a rather practicable craft," Kozhin said at a roundtable discussion on the development of ram wing surface effect vehicles, within the framework of the MAKS-2015 international aviation and space show that opened in the town of Zhukovsky outside Moscow on Tuesday.

According to him, the Russian Navy currently has a concept for the development of ram wing surface effect vehicles, envisaging the creation of the basic platform that "will be able to move from point A to point B, and then it is planned to equip it with weapons." He said that ekranoplans are sea and ocean vehicles and can hardly be used on rivers.

According to Kozhin, the Alexeyev Central Design Bureau is engaged in the creation of this platform.

"We are creating this platform with the prospect for new engines, which will be created in 2018-2020," the naval aviation chief said. He added that the new ram wing surface effect vehicle will have fewer engines than the existing samples of the ram wing craft, as the new engines will have better thrust-weight ratio and higher efficiency.


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Miragedriver

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Russia to start working on 2016-2025 armament program when economy stabilizes
Neither the Economic Development Ministry nor the Finance Ministry has a clear social and economic forecast at the moment

MOSCOW, August 31. /TASS/. The Russian government will start working on the state armament program for 2016-2025 only after the economic situation is stable, an informed source with the government told reporters on Monday.

"Any program must be based on a clear social and economic forecast and neither the Economic Development Ministry nor the Finance Ministry has such a forecast now. Eventually, we decided that as for the current armament program until 2020 we will work under the indicators that were agreed earlier. The work on prospective SAP for 2016-2025 will be launched no earlier than the economic situation stabilizes and the there is a clear forecast of the future socio-economic development," the source said.

Initially, the government announced that its spending on the state armaments program until 2025 would amount to 55 trillion rubles ($823 bln). Later the amount was reduced to 30 trillion rubles ($449 bln) to maintain the required volumes of equipment.

The cost of the state armament program until 2020 is about 20 trillion rubles ($299 bln). Among the main priorities of the current government program are strategic nuclear forces, aerospace forces and reconnaissance, communication means.


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