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TerraN_EmpirE

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On the weight issue of the SEA 5000. I somehow exspected the name, 5000, to imply the size / weight of the future vessel. And I think that would make sense for an ocean going, enduring FFG complementing Hobarts / defending the Canberras
ThyssenKrupp's presentation puts the A400 as a development off the F-125 and going into a national and an international (in this case australian) project. With those being rather common and the MKS 180 envisioned at around 5.000t, as I understand it so far, all seems to fit.

I don't know, we shall see. 7.000t for the SEA5000 would indeed be rather dubious.
Its not a target displacement its a project number.

SEA 1000 Is the Collins Class replacement program

SEA 1180 Is a Off Shore Patrol boat procurement program with known bids including Austal's MCV80 a sub scale derivative of the Independence class LCS and one of the versions of the USCG National defense Cutters.

Sea 4000 is a full Air defense Destroyer program

Air 9000 is a replacement for the Sea king helicopters.

Sea 1448 is a new torpedo...( I think. )

Sea 1444 is a upgrade to the Australian Sea Hawks.

Its a.catalogue number with every planed upgrade and new project from across the RAAN, and more gettin a heading Sea for naval, JP for Joint positioning, Air for self explanatory then a number.

So in a hypothetical if in a parallel universe Australia had decided to push for F35Bs for its Canberra class ships two Programs would be launched, Sea 10000 (remember that this is purely a example) would be configuring the ships to meet the F35s needs including changes to fueling systems and laying down the deck coatings and upgrades to flight ops.
Air 10001 procurement of the actual aircraft and related products and services.
The number is just where the program sits on the list the sea is just where it fits overall. Weight has nothing to do with it.
 

Jeff Head

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As TE documented above, here is an article on the delivery of the 7th Australian C-17A:

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PAcific Sentinnel said:
The seventh C-17A Globemaster III aircraft arrived in Australia at RAAF Base Amberley today, marking the fastest C-17A delivery in our fleet.

Minister for Defence Kevin Andrews said the rapid acquisition of the aircraft is a testament to the close relationship that exists between Australia and the United States.

“The active involvement of a number of United States and Australian agencies has been pivotal in meeting the successful delivery of this aircraft and I applaud everyone involved in the acquisition program,” Minister Andrews said.

“This acquisition signifies considerable work opportunities for the local industry, with $300 million being spent to upgrade facilities.

“With its proven ability to transport heavy equipment, vehicles and helicopters in a short time frame, the C-17A’s capabilities are vital to Australia’s national security and safety.”

Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Leo Davies, AO, CSC said the acquisition of two additional C-17A aircraft will increase the Australian Defence Force’s capacity to provide vital community and humanitarian assistance.

“The C-17A fleet has been integral to recent operations including the rapid deployment of Australian forces in support of the Iraq Government, assistance in the Queensland floods, and the recovery of MH17 victims from Eastern Ukraine,” Air Marshal Davies said.

“This latest acquisition will bolster our existing fleet of strategic lift aircraft – providing vital heavy airlift support to a range of operations, and increase our capacity to provide swift disaster relief and humanitarian assistance at home and abroad.

“Under Plan Jericho, the Air Force is dedicated to developing a networked, future joint force that can respond across the spectrum – from combat to humanitarian support. An additional two C-17A aircraft will help us achieve that,” Air Marshal Davies said.

The Government announced the acquisition of two additional C-17A aircraft in April 2015 representing a $1 billion investment in Australia’s security and Defence Force. The eighth C-17A is planned to arrive in Australia in late 2015.
 

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Naval Today said:
Australian Navy’s HMAS Perth returned to her homeport on July 26 after a busy three month deployment to South East Asia.

The deployment covered a wide range of regional engagement and diplomacy duties, including visits to Singapore, Thailand and Cambodia, as well as participating in a number of maritime exercises with international partners.

Perth’s return home will provide the Navy with another first in the anti-ship missile defence upgrade program. All four upgraded Anzac class frigates were alongside together at Fleet Base West recently; the three Western Australia-based ships, HMA Ships Perth, Arunta and Warramunga, will be joined by Anzac, which is en route to Sydney after a busy NORTHERN TRIDENT deployment.

Perth will shortly enter an extended maintenance period before returning to sea in early 2016.

I thought this was a good picture showing off the modernization that the ANZA class frigates underwent, with their new mast and radars.

Here's another one at sea:

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asif iqbal

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We can see where they are going down under with this one

Aussies have really upped the tempo with these warships and not only that the general whole round military package

It's a shame they scrapped F35B programme but actually I can understand why, operating a F35B from these units would be too much of a logistical challenge for RAN it's very hard game to play when you start mixing rotary and fixed wings together plus the inter operability is a really difficult

For now they are going a head with helos many be in future they can rethink the F35B programme

JMSDF on the other hand with its vast experience and dedication could pull off F35B operating from its flat decks but we will have to wait and see
 

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I think it's not a matter of simply being a logistical challenge of having multiple types of aircraft aboard a single ship, and more to do with the unit cost of the F-35B and the modifications to they ship they'll have to do to operate the F-35B... and then the operating costs for the subsequent years as well, which altogether may prove a hassle.

Regardless of whether it's RAN or JMSDF, cost is the big hurdle for operating F-35B
 

asif iqbal

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I think it's not a matter of simply being a logistical challenge of having multiple types of aircraft aboard a single ship, and more to do with the unit cost of the F-35B and the modifications to they ship they'll have to do to operate the F-35B... and then the operating costs for the subsequent years as well, which altogether may prove a hassle.

Regardless of whether it's RAN or JMSDF, cost is the big hurdle for operating F-35B

Yes it all comes down to cost but the cost is high because it is a tall order I tried to explain that rather than just saying it's too expensive
 

Brumby

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Yes it all comes down to cost but the cost is high because it is a tall order I tried to explain that rather than just saying it's too expensive

There are limited funds to go around. It is not simply about cost per se but bang for buck relative to strategic posture. Australia's immediate surrounding security interest do not require that the type of force projection capability as provided by the F-35B. Projecting further offshore up north would be a different story but frankly what can a force of 16 F-35B do when a whole USN CBG is insufficient when it comes to such need.
 
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