JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

plawolf

plawolf

Lieutenant General
thunderchief said:
Pilot showed a lot of skill , and there was a considerable risk . JF-17 with RD-93 is well below T/W of 1 even empty , therefore plane started decelerating as soon it was airborne . Yet it was still stable enough to apply left rudder and slowly straighten itself .
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Correction, sub unity T/W ratio is only with military thrust.

A JF17 with a modest fuel load and kicking in full burners would have better than 1.0 T/W.

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Empty weight 14,520lb, max engine thurst 19,000lb.

So it could haul up to 4,480lb of fuel and stores and still have better than unity T/W ratio when in afterburner.
 
thunderchief

thunderchief

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plawolf said:
Correction, sub unity T/W ratio is only with military thrust.

A JF17 with a modest fuel load and kicking in full burners would have better than 1.0 T/W.

As per:

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Empty weight 14,520lb, max engine thurst 19,000lb.

So it could haul up to 4,480lb of fuel and stores and still have better than unity T/W ratio when in afterburner.
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That would be correct , if you count in full A/B , which is according to UEC somewhere below 18,300 lb (8300 kilograms-of-force)
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But, full A/B during take-off usually eats up 20 or even 30% of maximum fuel , so you would need to have at least 50% fuel to be safe in those circumstances . Add to that weight of the pilot with flight suit (usually something like 300-350 lb or sometimes more) and other accessories (all equipment that is not fixed part of the plane) , and you will get T/W slightly below 1 .
 
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Lezt

Junior Member
taxiya said:
You are probably right in the 2nd sentence. But KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?) and Iran are indeed Asian countries geographically and in Chinese terms they are western Asian countries even though Chinese also use the term middle-east, but then middle-east in Chinese sense is just west Asia plus Egypt.
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Technically, the middle east is a modern term, anything west of Aegean sea is Europe and east of it is Asia.

Alexander invaded Asia, i.e. Persia. so it really could be anything.
 
kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Lezt said:
Technically, the middle east is a modern term, anything west of Aegean sea is Europe and east of it is Asia.

Alexander invaded Asia, i.e. Persia. so it really could be anything.
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We're a pedantic bunch LOL ... technically we're right however let's be honest.. the odds of SA buying JF17 is about the same as Turkey buying J21s LOL
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Wow are we serious here ??? Well done to China and Pakistan for securing the first export order

It could be Myanmar as the delegation just visited last few months the PAC facility's

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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Yes guys I think the news is legit JF-17 has secured it's first export order

Let's the party start ! Now I hope other orders role in like they did for Rafale

;):);):D
 
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