052C/052D Class Destroyers

Seeing that Type 052D head on got me to putting together similar head on picts of the US Burke DDG and Ticonderoga CG to compare.

The US pictures are taken from an angle a few degrees higher than the Type 052D so that has to be remembered...but it is nonetheless and interesting comparison. Also remember that the US vessels are several thousands tons heavier in displacement.

The Ticos need facelifts, them old ladies are looking their age.

Blackstone said:

The Ticos need facelifts, them old ladies are looking their age.

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They get maintained very regularly.

They are actually in great shape and at each maintenance period get all the new upgrades.

They remain, very potent fighting machines.

That picture is just a lower res pic blown up a bit...that may account for it.

Ultra said:

I don't think these have been posted -
Type 052D going through sea trials:

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They have been posted before, by me.

by78 said:

They have been posted before, by me.

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The first is 178 going at speed, the other two shows the ship showering itself.

guys sorry for asking this but i remember there was a ship that their door is broken during voyage is this type ship or another type?

HeQin said:

guys sorry for asking this but i remember there was a ship that their door is broken during voyage is this type ship or another type?

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That was on a Type 052C not on a Type 052D. But then again this is a tread for both Type 052C and Type 052D.

did Type 052D was very different in design than 052C? I mean the problem occured in Type 052C might happen to in 052D right?

it'll be better for Chinese shipbuilding to adept and fix immediatelly every single problem they have? Many people in my country that saying type 051 is piece of junk.... did PLAN has fixed it yet?

HeQin said:

did Type 052D was very different in design than 052C? I mean the problem occured in Type 052C might happen to in 052D right?

it'll be better for Chinese shipbuilding to adept and fix immediatelly every single problem they have? Many people in my country that saying type 051 is piece of junk.... did PLAN has fixed it yet?

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The "problem" with the 052C in question was a matter of a door. In other words, the way the door closed and the hinge behind it was not strong enough to withstand the particular strength of water that was faced for whatever reason.
It can be "fixed" simply by using a reinforced lock, or if one wants, by changing the hinge so the door flips outwards rather than inwards. In terms of problems that a ship class can face, this is thankfully very, very small.
In other words, it is literally the design of the door which is in question, nowhere near enough to call into question the design or competency of an entire class of ship, so even if 052D used the same aft door as 052C, it's a trivial matter and easily rectifiable if it's deemed an issue.

As for 051, yes, if you google pictures of the 051 class, they are absolutely beyond obsolete and will be replaced in the coming years by 052D.

HeQin said:

did Type 052D was very different in design than 052C? I mean the problem occured in Type 052C might happen to in 052D right?

it'll be better for Chinese shipbuilding to adept and fix immediatelly every single problem they have? Many people in my country that saying type 051 is piece of junk.... did PLAN has fixed it yet?

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What do you mean "PLAN has fixed it (051)" ? I don't think it will be fixed as Type 051 is just fine for what it designed for (I know it is obsolete)

Type 51 is far from a junk, it is still very effective light destroyer and all 6 type 051 have had major refit in the 1990s .. and it has 16 YJ-83 (yes sixteen) .... Type 051 is still better than most of Vietnamese warships or other SE Asian navies, let alone the Philippine navy warships.

I believe the 6 Type 051 will still serve PLAN in foreseeable future, in low intensity area or lower tech area (i.e SCS)