J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V
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Sounds great, and I would love to see 2015 launch right along side her as "chase" since we are taking orders??? I would really love to see a two ship, something that's missing from our photo record? or am I wrong????Regarding no. '2016' ... what about 1. June for unveiling ??
Tell us when you go on holiday and we know when to expect the first flight.Regarding no. '2016' ... what about 1. June for unveiling ??
To admit, the chances are not bad if this is indeed the indicator ... we will leave on Thursday next week for a brief three day holyday with the family... this would be from 4. to 7. June.
Deino
AssassinsMace
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Sounds great, and I would love to see 2015 launch right along side her as "chase" since we are taking orders??? I would really love to see a two ship, something that's missing from our photo record? or am I wrong????
Hey, what's wrong !!!???
I was gone, I left my PC and all Internet-access for three - nearly four
- days ... and what happened ?? NOTHING ! Not a new prototype, no '2016', not even a new J-10B !!!!
To admit I'm very disappointed CAC ... next chance is from 6. to 11. July !
Deino
Oh, Deino, I forgot to tell you that this weekend was a long Holiday weekend in China.Hey, what's wrong !!!???
I was gone, I left my PC and all Internet-access for three - nearly four
Not a new prototype, no '2016', not even a new J-10B !!!!
To admit I'm very disappointed CAC ... next chance is from 6. to 11. July !
Deino
Hey, what's wrong !!!???
I was gone, I left my PC and all Internet-access for three - nearly four
Not a new prototype, no '2016', not even a new J-10B !!!!
To admit I'm very disappointed CAC ... next chance is from 6. to 11. July !
Deino
Patience is a virtue! Maybe we'll get an entire regiment instead of just 2016. Who knows.
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Wow, before China even operationally field its first stealth fighter and it is already game over!
PARIS AIR SHOW 2015: Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) unveiled a unique, highly advanced family of modular Ultra High Frequency (UHF) Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars.
The new ULTRA family of AESA UHF radars, developed by IAI’s ELTA Systems Group and subsidiary, represents a formidable capability of Early Warning and long range search and tracking of low observable Air Breathing Targets (ABTs), and ballistic missiles. The radars offer an advantage of low RCS targets detection at long ranges, operation under all weather conditions, and in the presence of dense electromagnetic environments.
The ULTRA radars, already operationally proven, use a modular, common UHF-band cluster architecture capable of wide angle electronic scan in both elevation and azimuth. The basic cluster can be modularly scaled to 6 and up to a 22 cluster configuration which offers extended detection ranges and tracking accuracies. Other cluster configurations are possible to meet specific customer’s requirements.
The ULTRA-C1 (single cluster configuration) is a lightweight mobile system designed to provide an autonomous search and detection capability up to 500km for a typical fighter aircraft. The ULTRA-C6 (six clusters configuration) is designed for an Early Warning and long range of satellites, ballistic missiles and airborne targets at long ranges, while the ULTRA C-22 (22 clusters configuration) is a strategic system for ballistic missiles and space objects detection and tracking at very long ranges.
The ULTRA radars can be used as autonomous search radar, supporting all defence layers: Air Defence Surveillance for medium range, Early Warning system for long ranges, and a strategic system for very long ranges.
“Ballistic missiles present a significant global threat to nations, expeditionary forces and global peace-keeping missions”, explained Mr. Nissim Hadas, IAI Executive VP & ELTA President, “We note increasing requirements worldwide for Early Warning radars, in order to extend the currently available Air Situation Picture and allow commanders and decision makers the valuable extra time for making informed and educated decisions concerning necessary defensive measures.”
It is said that UHF is particularly effective at detecting stealth aircrafts, and a single cluster has already over 500 km of detection range - adding more cluster seems to increase the range significantly (to strategic level - probably at thousands of km).
This presents a problem for China, that J-20 hasn't even been fielded and its career might already be over. As more countries starting acquirig long range UHF type radar clusters the advantage of stealth will be gone. What's left is simply high performance, super maneuverable fighter akin to the last (4.5+ generation).
And since J-20 is quite large and quite long (largest of the known stealth aircraft pack) it begs the question just how maneuverable it is.
PARIS AIR SHOW 2015: Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) unveiled a unique, highly advanced family of modular Ultra High Frequency (UHF) Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars.
The new ULTRA family of AESA UHF radars, developed by IAI’s ELTA Systems Group and subsidiary, represents a formidable capability of Early Warning and long range search and tracking of low observable Air Breathing Targets (ABTs), and ballistic missiles. The radars offer an advantage of low RCS targets detection at long ranges, operation under all weather conditions, and in the presence of dense electromagnetic environments.
The ULTRA radars, already operationally proven, use a modular, common UHF-band cluster architecture capable of wide angle electronic scan in both elevation and azimuth. The basic cluster can be modularly scaled to 6 and up to a 22 cluster configuration which offers extended detection ranges and tracking accuracies. Other cluster configurations are possible to meet specific customer’s requirements.
The ULTRA-C1 (single cluster configuration) is a lightweight mobile system designed to provide an autonomous search and detection capability up to 500km for a typical fighter aircraft. The ULTRA-C6 (six clusters configuration) is designed for an Early Warning and long range of satellites, ballistic missiles and airborne targets at long ranges, while the ULTRA C-22 (22 clusters configuration) is a strategic system for ballistic missiles and space objects detection and tracking at very long ranges.
The ULTRA radars can be used as autonomous search radar, supporting all defence layers: Air Defence Surveillance for medium range, Early Warning system for long ranges, and a strategic system for very long ranges.
“Ballistic missiles present a significant global threat to nations, expeditionary forces and global peace-keeping missions”, explained Mr. Nissim Hadas, IAI Executive VP & ELTA President, “We note increasing requirements worldwide for Early Warning radars, in order to extend the currently available Air Situation Picture and allow commanders and decision makers the valuable extra time for making informed and educated decisions concerning necessary defensive measures.”
It is said that UHF is particularly effective at detecting stealth aircrafts, and a single cluster has already over 500 km of detection range - adding more cluster seems to increase the range significantly (to strategic level - probably at thousands of km).
This presents a problem for China, that J-20 hasn't even been fielded and its career might already be over. As more countries starting acquirig long range UHF type radar clusters the advantage of stealth will be gone. What's left is simply high performance, super maneuverable fighter akin to the last (4.5+ generation).
And since J-20 is quite large and quite long (largest of the known stealth aircraft pack) it begs the question just how maneuverable it is.
Both Russia and China have been working on comparable radars for a while now...Do you want to parrot around how doomed American stealth fighters are as well?Wow, before China even operationally field its first stealth fighter and it is already game over!
PARIS AIR SHOW 2015: Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) unveiled a unique, highly advanced family of modular Ultra High Frequency (UHF) Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars.
The new ULTRA family of AESA UHF radars, developed by IAI’s ELTA Systems Group and subsidiary, represents a formidable capability of Early Warning and long range search and tracking of low observable Air Breathing Targets (ABTs), and ballistic missiles. The radars offer an advantage of low RCS targets detection at long ranges, operation under all weather conditions, and in the presence of dense electromagnetic environments.
The ULTRA radars, already operationally proven, use a modular, common UHF-band cluster architecture capable of wide angle electronic scan in both elevation and azimuth. The basic cluster can be modularly scaled to 6 and up to a 22 cluster configuration which offers extended detection ranges and tracking accuracies. Other cluster configurations are possible to meet specific customer’s requirements.
The ULTRA-C1 (single cluster configuration) is a lightweight mobile system designed to provide an autonomous search and detection capability up to 500km for a typical fighter aircraft. The ULTRA-C6 (six clusters configuration) is designed for an Early Warning and long range of satellites, ballistic missiles and airborne targets at long ranges, while the ULTRA C-22 (22 clusters configuration) is a strategic system for ballistic missiles and space objects detection and tracking at very long ranges.
The ULTRA radars can be used as autonomous search radar, supporting all defence layers: Air Defence Surveillance for medium range, Early Warning system for long ranges, and a strategic system for very long ranges.
“Ballistic missiles present a significant global threat to nations, expeditionary forces and global peace-keeping missions”, explained Mr. Nissim Hadas, IAI Executive VP & ELTA President, “We note increasing requirements worldwide for Early Warning radars, in order to extend the currently available Air Situation Picture and allow commanders and decision makers the valuable extra time for making informed and educated decisions concerning necessary defensive measures.”
It is said that UHF is particularly effective at detecting stealth aircrafts, and a single cluster has already over 500 km of detection range - adding more cluster seems to increase the range significantly (to strategic level - probably at thousands of km).
This presents a problem for China, that J-20 hasn't even been fielded and its career might already be over. As more countries starting acquirig long range UHF type radar clusters the advantage of stealth will be gone. What's left is simply high performance, super maneuverable fighter akin to the last (4.5+ generation).
And since J-20 is quite large and quite long (largest of the known stealth aircraft pack) it begs the question just how maneuverable it is.
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