WOW! Those pictures are simply phenomenal.
Having watched the SCS for years...and knowing of the original structures on several of these reefs over the years...to see this rapid development, and the scale of it, is simply amazing.
PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)
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WOW! Those pictures are simply phenomenal.
Having watched the SCS for years...and knowing of the original structures on several of these reefs over the years...to see this rapid development, and the scale of it, is simply amazing.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Simply gorgeous. Dubai eat your heart out with your Palm artificial islands.
I bet China could construct one if they wanted to as well.
Sorry guys, last night I indicated plainly that this thread is not about Strategy and it is not about potential conflict.
We have two strategy pages fpr thje SCS, oen for China dn one for other countries..
Posters have elected to ignore (or not read) that instruction. All of those types of posts are going to be deleted per my original post.
If you want to post these strategy/policy oriented posts...and do so without going into US vs China conflict, you will have two hours to move them to the appropriate Strategy Thread.
I ain't your momma so I am not going to do it for you since I already plainly instructed it not to happen.
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We have two strategy pages fpr thje SCS, oen for China dn one for other countries..
Posters have elected to ignore (or not read) that instruction. All of those types of posts are going to be deleted per my original post.
If you want to post these strategy/policy oriented posts...and do so without going into US vs China conflict, you will have two hours to move them to the appropriate Strategy Thread.
I ain't your momma so I am not going to do it for you since I already plainly instructed it not to happen.
DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MODERATION
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I thought lighthouses became obsolete after GPS...(or Beidou in this case)
lcloo
Captain
Light house is important in marine routes, it gives warning of unseen danger in submerged reef/ low rised rocks, it also complements GPS/ Beidou.
Blackstone
Brigadier
That's the frustrating part of China's claims within the 9-dash line (Cow Tongue). It hasn't clarified what exactly it owns! Is it just some of the islands and land features inside the Cow Tongue, or is it all of the land features, including locations current occupied by other claimants? Is it some or all of the water within Cow Tongue? Does China accept international law on artificial land features not getting 12 mile territorial limit? I get it, China is intentionally vague on its claims so it could retain maximum options, but without clear and concise baselines, how could the parties get on with it? China is fighting for its territory, I get it and I agree, but not making its claims crystal clear invites the worst fears and reactions from its neighbors and from the current hegemon.
joshuatree
Captain
Not to mention there are still probably many small fishing boats out there that may not have GPS.
The best way, as China has been saying it sees it for a long time, is to discus the matter. In general over the last few hundred years academics, mostly inspired by governments but not formally under their responsibility, presented a point of view that was subsequently supported by peace treaties or other agreements. Hugo Grotius wrote his "Mare Liberum" at the behest of the Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie, the Dutch East India company. It seems China doesn't use the same tactic but is inclined to concede much territory / sea space / participation in mineral or fishery exploitation in bilateral agreements in return for acceptance of the principles it wants to see applied. This would of course exclude US who don't have territory in the area since 1946.
There has been no suggestion by China that use of the sea for navigation should be limited at all and no-one has given a suggestion why China would want to introduce such.