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Live streaming should be available on the day here Jeff.

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about ten hours later :) I watched the two-minutes countdown ... here's its end:
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plawolf

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Well it's more about what this relatively small possible arrangement says about the overall Australia policy to China... and at this stage I'm not even sure if the Australians have figured out where they want to stand.

In other words, how China figures into Australia's security needs really depends on what Australia's security needs are in the first place and that's what I suspect is being debated within the Aus govt. I think it would be a bit presumptuous of us to say that China doesn't threaten Australian security, simply because we don't know what Australian security needs entail.

Nope! That's not security is supposed to work!

Granted, what you have just described is sadly more like how it works in many Western nations, but real core security is not something you decide or figure out.

A true security threat is what keeps leaders up at night. They don't need to 'decide' what that is.

Conversely, if you need a committee and libbiests to 'convince' you something/someone is a security threat, odds are whatever that was never was a real security threat, and you are just calling it that to justify whatever it is you want to do to/against them.

It's a ploy as old as politics.
 

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Nope! That's not security is supposed to work!

Granted, what you have just described is sadly more like how it works in many Western nations, but real core security is not something you decide or figure out.

A true security threat is what keeps leaders up at night. They don't need to 'decide' what that is.

Conversely, if you need a committee and libbiests to 'convince' you something/someone is a security threat, odds are whatever that was never was a real security threat, and you are just calling it that to justify whatever it is you want to do to/against them.

It's a ploy as old as politics.

I think a nation's security needs do include the existential threats that you describe, but also it depends on a nation's own interests in its periphery or around the globe in different regions.

It would be nice if all countries only ever acted on the basis of true existential threats to their security, but in reality that sadly isn't the case, and I don't expect it to be the case for Australia either.

So I suppose I should have used the phrase "national interest" rather than "security"
 

Blackstone

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also, can we stop creating a new thread for every new article or video of interest? Blackstone, you've created four new threads in the last few days in the strategy defence thread... how about making a new thread for an overall topic surrounding geopolitics, rather than a new thread for each individual article?
Good suggestion, Blitzo, I'll try and consolidate future posts.
 

Blackstone

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Nope! That's not security is supposed to work!

Granted, what you have just described is sadly more like how it works in many Western nations, but real core security is not something you decide or figure out.

A true security threat is what keeps leaders up at night. They don't need to 'decide' what that is.

Conversely, if you need a committee and libbiests to 'convince' you something/someone is a security threat, odds are whatever that was never was a real security threat, and you are just calling it that to justify whatever it is you want to do to/against them.

It's a ploy as old as politics.
Your view is logical, but nations don't always operation rationally. Fear and loathing drive government policies as much as cold hard national interests.
 
about ten hours later :) I watched the two-minutes countdown ...

and now I found the press-release:
Minister for Defence – Launch of the first Air Warfare Destroyer
23 May 2015

In an important milestone for the Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program, the first of three destroyers, Hobart, was launched alongside thePortRiver wharf inAdelaide today.

This is a key achievement for the program and a big step towards the delivery of three highly capable warships to the Royal Australian Navy.

I am pleased to see the progress since my visit to Techport Australia earlier this year, when I saw Hobart fully consolidated with substantial combat and platform systems installed.

I have also had the opportunity to walk through the second destroyer Brisbane — now in an advanced state of fit-out with more than half of the blocks already consolidated on the hardstand.

Once fully operational, the warships will have a combination of great endurance, offensive and defensive weapons, flexibility and versatility. Hobart, Brisbane and Adelaide will assume a leading command and control role with the Australian Defence Force and Coalition forces capable of carrying out multi-mission operations.

The AWD program is one of the largest and most complex Defence projects ever undertaken in Australia and has been instrumental in building a strong shipbuilding capability in Australia.

It is an example of how a skilled Australian workforce working hand-in-hand with international partners can ultimately deliver warships that will have a combination of great endurance, offensive and defensive weapons, flexibility and versatility.

The Hobart has reached this milestone through Government and industry collaboration involving an Australian workforce of some 3000 people. This includes the AWD Alliance made up of lead shipbuilder ASC, mission systems integrator Raytheon Australia and the Department of Defence, including the Royal Australian Navy.

The program has also been supported the United States Navy, Navantia, Lockheed Martin, Forgacs, BAE Systems and MG Engineering.

As Hobart moves into this next phase, the second and third destroyers, Brisbane and Sydney, will benefit from the AWD Alliance applying lessons learned.

This experience will be drawn on should a continuous build strategy, with a regular pace of delivering new warships, be feasible.

An enterprise-level naval shipbuilding plan would provide for the long-term future of the Australian naval shipbuilding industry and avoid the peaks and troughs we are experiencing – and have experienced in the past.

With Hobart in the water, the second destroyer, Brisbane, can soon take its place on the hardstand to undergo final block consolidation, and the keel for the third destroyer, Sydney, will be laid.

The AWD Alliance can now focus on ship completion and system commissioning for Hobart, which will be followed by sea trials next year.
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Jeff Head

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Here are ten of the pictures I gathered from the launch ceremonies, spread out over the next two posts. (Also see
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Workers and other personnel gathered before the launch

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Launch ceremonies preparing to start

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Royal Australian Navy Band playing at the ceremonies

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Speaker at the Launching of the Hobart, D39, AWD

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HMAS Hobart, D39, prepared to launch
 

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Here are the next five pictures I gathered from the launch ceremonies. (Also see...

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...for all of my pictures on the Hobart Class):



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Bridge area of the Hobart

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Workers aboard the Hobart watching the launch ceremonies

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Main gun and bow of the Hobart

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HMAS Hobart, D39 AWD, forward port quarter, after launch, May 23, 2015

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HMAS Hobart, D39 AWD, forward starboard quarter, after launch, May 23, 2015
 
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