PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)

janjak desalin

Junior Member
...The real argument is who owns the SCS islands, rocks, and submerged features, and China isn't foolish enough to let others frame the issue.
and ownership of/sovereignty over those features establishes what specific internationally recognized maritime rights and privileges...?
 

Zetageist

Junior Member
and ownership of/sovereignty over those features establishes what specific internationally recognized maritime rights and privileges...?

The Spratly Islands Dispute: Who's on First?
by Daniel J. Dzurek 1996

He wrote this book 50 years after the end of WWII when current claimants started this dispute. Now, nearly 20 years after he wrote this book, we are nowhere close in solving this dispute.

Free on Google Book but you need a Google account first, which is also free.
 

janjak desalin

Junior Member
I don't know the facts, but my guess is issues ranging from 12 miles, 3 miles, or zero territorial limits and maybe even SCS ADIZ.
yes!
and my guess is an attempt to claim an EEZ.
maybe a more acceptable solution would be to attempt to achieve an SCSLSECZ (South China Sea Littoral States Economic Cooperation Zone).
 

solarz

Brigadier
yes!
and my guess is an attempt to claim an EEZ.
maybe a more acceptable solution would be to attempt to achieve an SCSLSECZ (South China Sea Littoral States Economic Cooperation Zone).

No, it's not just about EEZs, it's also about security.

There has been a perception that China wants to put military installations on those islands in order to secure their sovereignty. I think it's rather the opposite. Nobody in China really cares much about the SCS islands, so why would the CPC declare them to be a "core interest", on par with Tibet and Taiwan?

The simplest answer would be, because it has vital strategic importance. A strong, permanent military presence in that region would greatly improve China's maritime economic security, made especially important by the New Silk Road plan.
 

janjak desalin

Junior Member
No, it's not just about EEZs, it's also about security.

There has been a perception that China wants to put military installations on those islands in order to secure their sovereignty. I think it's rather the opposite. Nobody in China really cares much about the SCS islands, so why would the CPC declare them to be a "core interest", on par with Tibet and Taiwan?

The simplest answer would be, because it has vital strategic importance. A strong, permanent military presence in that region would greatly improve China's maritime economic security, made especially important by the New Silk Road plan.

i could, very well, mistaken ( i have no source), but was under the impression that all the clamor over the spratleys was because of anticipated offshore energy resources.
 

solarz

Brigadier
i could, very well, mistaken ( i have no source), but was under the impression that all the clamor over the spratleys was because of anticipated offshore energy resources.

Yes, that has been the western media narrative all along, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Energy resources alone is not enough of a reason for the Chinese government to declare the region "core interest", despite the fact that pretty much nobody in China cares about the islands. This isn't like the Diaoyu Islands, which symbolizes the remaining vestige of China's past humiliations, nor is it like Taiwan, which is integral to the legitimacy of the CPC.

So why would the CPC declare the SCS islands a "core interest"? Energy can always be traded for. Security, on the other hand, cannot. It's the simplest explanation that makes sense, IMO.
 
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