Chinese Aviation Industry

Melcane

New Member
Registered Member
if the modernised Mi-26 becomes lighter, why would the cargo capacity remains the same of 15 metric tonnes ?
It can result in to achieve higher speed, higher altitude and extended range of operation. It can save the fuel by derating or running turbo jet engine below the normal power levels. When you run turbo engines well below max ratings, you can save the fuel / increase the interval between repairs of engines.
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
if the modernised Mi-26 becomes lighter, why would the cargo capacity remains the same of 15 metric tonnes ?

Simple, they haven't strengthen the airfarme to carry heavier loads. Basically if the floor says it can only take certain amount of weight per square meter of floor space then you don't place more then the amount specified or the floor/supporting beams would just give into the weight.
 

Tyloe

Junior Member
The agreement for the helicopter deal was signed between AVIC and Russian Helicopters today, one of many during Xi's visit to Moscow. The helicopter is called the Advanced Heavy Lift project or "AHL", and China may purchase up to 200 units by 2040. It has a maximum take-off weight of 38 tons and can internally carry up to 10 tons of cargo or carry 15 tons externally.

Russia, China sign agreement on cooperation in developing new heavy helicopter

MOSCOW, May 8. /TASS/. The Helicopters of Russia holding company (an affiliate of the Russian Technologies corporation) and the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) have concluded a framework agreement on cooperation in creating a heavy helicopter of the future. The ceremony took place in the Kremlin. Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese leader Xin Jinping were present at the event. Helicopters of Russia CEO Alexander Mikheyev and AVIC Board of Directors’ President Lin Zuoming inked the agreement. According to the document, Russia and China will cooperate in all efforts to develop the new heavy helicopter, called Advanced Heavy Lift, and its batch production.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!



"China’s helicopter market is one of the world’s fastest-growing, and we are interested in establishing long-term, all-round strategic relations with China for the development of mutually beneficial cooperation in aircraft-building," Mikheyev said. "It is very important the idea of building a new heavy helicopter has the backing of both countries’ governments. We are certain that the implementation of this project will open up new horizons of cooperation between China and Russia."

Experts estimate China’s potential market at 200 helicopters till 2040. The AHL will have a lift-off mass of 38 tonnes, maximum commercial cockpit payload of 10 tons and the capability to carry 15-ton payload suspended externally. The helicopter should be able to operate in hot climates, in mountain areas and in any weather to perform a variety of missions: carry passengers and cargoes, evacuate people in distress, fight fires and so on.

By now the Helicopters of Russia company and the AVIC have agreed on preliminary terms of reference and go ahead with coordinating the helicopter’s other features. A general contract is due to be signed later this year.

Engine for Russian-Chinese helicopter to be made in Russia, not Ukraine
The engine for a new Russian-Chinese heavy helicopter will be made in Russia, not Ukraine, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Friday following the conclusion of a framework agreement on this project following talks between Russian and Chinese delegations.

Rogozin said the issue of the day was the conclusion of a contract for beginning research into a heavy 38-tonne helicopter.

"Russian engine specialists have achieved a unique solution making Russia independent from foreign providers. The engine for this new helicopter will be created in Russia, not in Ukraine, contrary to what was the case in the past," Rogozin said, adding that the MS-21 plane engine would be used as the basis for a new helicopter power plant.

"This means that the project for building a new heavy helicopter is no longer dependent on any country other than Russia and China," he said, adding that Russia would make its contribution not with cash, but with technologies and know-hows.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
38 ton mtow and 15 tons of cargo? that leaves 23 tons. comparing the weights with very similar ch53 family, empty weight should be in 15-18 ton range. So it's gonna be carrying 5+ tons of fuel even when fully ladden? (ch53e has normal internal storage of closer to 3 tons of fuel)
 

Blitzo

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Registered Member
38 ton mtow and 15 tons of cargo? that leaves 23 tons. comparing the weights with very similar ch53 family, empty weight should be in 15-18 ton range. So it's gonna be carrying 5+ tons of fuel even when fully ladden? (ch53e has normal internal storage of closer to 3 tons of fuel)

Better compared with Ch-53K, which also has a MTOW of 38.4 tons and 15.9 tons of cargo...
 

Ultra

Junior Member
The agreement for the helicopter deal was signed between AVIC and Russian Helicopters today, one of many during Xi's visit to Moscow. The helicopter is called the Advanced Heavy Lift project or "AHL", and China may purchase up to 200 units by 2040. It has a maximum take-off weight of 38 tons and can internally carry up to 10 tons of cargo or carry 15 tons externally.


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!



Didn't they talk about 5 years ago............


"In July 2010 a proposed Russian-Chinese development of a 33-ton heavy-lift helicopter was announced."

News was repeated again in China Daily in 2011....
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


It took FIVE YEARS for this to finally signed. LOL!
Now we have to wait for another 10 years to see this into fruition.
 
Last edited:

Blackstone

Brigadier
Didn't they talk about 5 years ago............


"In July 2010 a proposed Russian-Chinese development of a 33-ton heavy-lift helicopter was announced."

News was repeated again in China Daily in 2011....
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


It took FIVE YEARS for this to finally signed. LOL!
Now we have to wait for another 10 years to see this into fruition.
More like 30 more years.
 
Top