The work undertaken is looking for evidence against the rebels in East Ukraine, which evidence is provided by the other possible guilty party, the Kiev regime:
Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.
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lol, anywhere around Russian border it's bad for an airplane to crash.
Just look at MH17 fall, Polish government airplane fall and recent Airbus 320 crash in Alps.
Sorry, but Russia isn't a part of the world that most of you were born. For Russian government people's tragedy is only a play that you can give to the masses. You make two groups that will fight against each other. With guns like in Ukraine...
The gap between 'western world' and 'eastern world' is that big. Don't even try to cheer for a system that values your life as another 'zero'... Unless you can become one of them of course
There are lots of money laying down there for those who dare!
Just look at MH17 fall, Polish government airplane fall and recent Airbus 320 crash in Alps.
Sorry, but Russia isn't a part of the world that most of you were born. For Russian government people's tragedy is only a play that you can give to the masses. You make two groups that will fight against each other. With guns like in Ukraine...
The gap between 'western world' and 'eastern world' is that big. Don't even try to cheer for a system that values your life as another 'zero'... Unless you can become one of them of course
There are lots of money laying down there for those who dare!
Zool
Junior Member
So most people following events in Ukraine are aware there have been suspicious deaths and outright murders over the last while, of former President Yanukovych political supporters. BBC is now reporting on a claim of responsibility from a faction supporting the Maidan installed government (who is denying involvement -- a good strategy!):
I don't recall such a political 'cleansing' taking place when the Orange Revolution was put down/ran it's course. Although there were examples of legal proceedings; Yulia Tymoshenko being a prominent one. Overall, does not bode well for future political transition stability, and casts a poor light on those currently in power; or their support base at a minimum.
By David SternBBC News, Kiev
- 18 April 2015
- From the section
Oleg Kalashnikov and Oles Buzyna were found dead within hours of each other
A Ukrainian nationalist group has said it was behind the deaths of two public figures in Kiev earlier this week.
Oleg Kalashnikov, a former MP, and Oles Buzyna, a writer and former newspaper editor, were gunned down in separate attacks within hours of each other.
A group calling itself the Ukrainian Insurgent Army claimed it carried out the killings in an email to political expert Volodomyr Fesenko.
Both of the victims were known for their strong anti-government views.
Kiev officials immediately questioned the authenticity of the claim.
The email received by Mr Fesenko was addressed to members of the Opposition Bloc, the successors to former President Viktor Yanukovych's Party of Regions. It fell apart after Mr Yanukovych fled the country last year.
In it, the group also said it was to blame for linked to Mr Yanukovych, some of which were believed to be suicides.
The Insurgent Army, which is named after controversial Ukrainian nationalist partisans who fought during World War Two, said it was giving those it considered guilty of "anti-Ukrainian" activity until Monday to leave the country.
"We are unleashing a ruthless insurgency against the anti-Ukrainian regime of traitors and Moscow's lackeys. From now on, we will only speak to them using the language of weapons, all the way to their elimination," Mr Fesenko quoted the letter as saying.
Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych was ousted from power in 2014
Ukraine's authorities have promised to investigate this week's murders
Mr Kalashnikov, a former MP from Mr Yanukovych's party, was found dead from gunshot wounds in his apartment block on Wednesday evening.
Hours later two masked assailants gunned down Oles Buzyna in the courtyard of his building.
Olena Bondarenko, a former MP from the Party of Regions, said Ukraine's interior ministry had agreed to provide her with security guards, after she received anonymous threats.
But Markiyan Lubkivsky, a spokesman for the security services, said "the authenticity of the email and the author's intentions" were questionable.
He said the email was sent from an address in Germany and contained grammatical mistakes not typical for a native Ukrainian speaker. This could not be independently verified.
Mr Lubkivsky also claimed that the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) did not exist.
Others disagreed. Anton Shevkhovtsov, a Ukrainian expert in far-right groups, said on Facebook that although he could not say who killed Mr Buzyna and Mr Kalashnikov, a group calling itself the UPA did indeed exist back in January, 2014.
Mr Shekovtsov said it was a "small radical nationalist group" among a number of organisations that had occupied Kiev City Hall. He also claimed he had interviewed its leader.
Ukrainian officials have promised an open and thorough investigation to track down the two men's killers.
But they also have already voiced a number of accusations, for which, they admit, at the moment they have no proof.
These include the prospect that Moscow was behind the murders, as a provocation. Russian officials deny the charge.
One scenario, in which they seem less interested, is the possibility that Mr Buzyna and Mr Kalashnikov were targeted after their personal information was published on a local website, just days before their shootings.
The site, called "The Peacekeeper" collects information on people who, it says, are "pro-Russian terrorists, separatists, mercenaries, war criminals, and murderers".
However, Anton Geraschenko, a top advisor to the Ukrainian interior ministry, played down the theory.
"I think it's a coincidence," he said, noting that the site gives information on thousands of people.
However, Gerashchenko is also a strong supporter of the site, having encouraged his Facebook followers to send information to it on suspected "terrorists and separatists".
I don't recall such a political 'cleansing' taking place when the Orange Revolution was put down/ran it's course. Although there were examples of legal proceedings; Yulia Tymoshenko being a prominent one. Overall, does not bode well for future political transition stability, and casts a poor light on those currently in power; or their support base at a minimum.
Where is Kamenskii rayon?New Russian attack coming soon. You don't store rockets like that unless you prepare to use them...
Jura The idiot
General
I believe it's:
I happen to know where it is because ... Kamieniec Podolski used to be a royal city of Polish Kings, important in ... OFF TOPIC
by the way, the post by
Broccoli https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/ukraine-revolt-civil-war.t7103/page-105#post-336654
just shows
IMG
to me so I don't know what's he said
Broccoli's picture shows rockets being stored in the open air. He says the Russian army are preparing for war in Eastern Ukraine. So that can't be your Kamieniec Podolski in Western Ukraine.I believe it's:
I happen to know where it is because ... Kamieniec Podolski used to be a royal city of Polish Kings, important in ... OFF TOPIC
by the way, the post by
Broccoli https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/ukraine-revolt-civil-war.t7103/page-105#post-336654
just shows
IMG
to me so I don't know what's he said
Jura The idiot
General
OK, I shouldn't have posted without seeing that picture
it comes from a hard-core Ukrainian server (something like "Cassad" just saying the opposite LOL) which I actually noticed had been down this morning -- now the pictures shows to me here, and purports to show a suburb of a Russian town of(by the way, the route between the two places is 1400 km
according to yandeks.ru:i very much doubt there will be any kind of significant movement at least until 10 mayNew Russian attack coming soon. You don't store rockets like that unless you prepare to use them...