Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Jura The idiot
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oh, Yevgeny Alexeyevich says many "interesting" things
and his buddy Zhirinovsky even offered Poland to partition Ukraine (pretty offensive, by the way):
but we're not going to talk Russian Politics here, are we?
oh, Yevgeny Alexeyevich says many "interesting" things
and his buddy Zhirinovsky even offered Poland to partition Ukraine (pretty offensive, by the way):
but we're not going to talk Russian Politics here, are we?
Russian politics ..... No
Russian perspectives and policy on Ukraine crisis .... Yes
The Russian Government is a signatory on both Minsk accords so both viewpoint and policy are clearly relevant to the situation.
On that basis your first link is irrelevant and off topic, while the second link deals with issues that may yet indeed come to the fore.
Jura The idiot
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my sources are saying Mr. Phillips
inadvertently showed Т-72Б3 tanks (operated by the Russian Army since 2013) once the fight in
were over:
(I don't know much about tanks so I'll just repeat what I've heard about the differences between Т-72Б3 and older variants:
inadvertently showed Т-72Б3 tanks (operated by the Russian Army since 2013) once the fight in
were over:
- new type of two-segments tread;
- absence of an older IR seeker on the right side of the turret
- presence of the new "Sosna-U" IR seeker on the left side of the turret
Jura The idiot
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SampanViking, what I tried to say (but failed
was that "Zhirinovsky" is a Clown who reminds me about who in the beginning of 1990s wanted to re-unite
with Czechoslovakia (unfortunately English wiki doesn't describe this effort, but it's still remembered here LOL) ... I'll not mention more lunacies ... and you may have the last word on this (now I mean "partitioning of Ukraine offered by "Zhirinovsky" to Poland").
kolomoisky going out of control, someone needs to put a leash on him.
this to me signifies a major shift in ukrainian politics, kolomoisky and poroshenko never saw each other eye to eye but they have managed to mask their differences. now the rift is becoming increasingly apparent, and with minsk II in place various political forces will feel less compelled to maintain a facade of unity at their own expense. as their common interest diminishes commensurately with the halting of military operations, ukraine's ruling troika will likely begin to disintegrate.
if i were kolomoisky i'd contemplate about spending more time in dnipropetrovsk than kiev.
I understand Kolomoisky mostly lives in Switzerland.
what i really meant was that he needs to stay in his power base to not have it usurped by poroshenko. i am not sure if all NG units in dnipropetrovsk are loyal to him, can someone shed light on this?
Cassad reports fierce artillery bombardment and concentration of armour units and bridging pontoons between Mariupol and Donetsk. Doubt the Minsk 2 actually means much more than just to put a halt to a successful militia counter offensive just as in Minsk 1.
Looks like no peace for the civilians.
The prelude
The DPR: the Ukrainian security forces opened fire along the whole demarcation line in Donbass
The Ukrainian military violated the cease-fire regime along the whole demarcation line in Donbass, said the deputy defense minister of the Donetsk People's Republic Eduard Basurin. "For the first time (since the cease-fire was established) violations are noted along the whole demarcation line: Dokuchayevsk, Granitnoye, Logvinovo. The Ukrainian forces are concentrated most of all in the area of Donetsk and Mariupol, there is no such concentration in the north," - he said on Saturday.
Basurin emphasized that the Ukrainian security forces strengthened their group in the region. "On the southern direction the militants of the "Azov" battalion were equipped with a new battery, which uses the tactic of maneuverable military action, shells our areas, and then changes its location in order to not be seen by the OSCE," - said Basurin. "The Ukrainian military are reinforced by new weapons and also with personnel. Mostly these are conscripts, who were deceptively sent into Donbass . We also noted the additional equipping and relocation of vehicles, reinforcements, and mining of the objects," - he added.
(in Russian) - link
PS. I can add to this. Our humanitarian workers returned from the DPR today. Yesterday they were near the SBU building in Donetsk, artillery and "Grads" were actively engaged in the area of Peski and Avdeyevka, it could be heard in the center of the city. At Shirokino there's fighting going on non-stop for several days altogether, our forces had up to 50 KIA and WIA over the recent days (mostly WIA), the junta had about 70. The enemy artillery is very strongly engaged. Plus there is also information that the junta is deploying pontoons for crossing Seversky Donetsk and is pulling vehicles towards the supposed locations of crossing. Overall, to the question of "When?" almost all militia fighters and those who have to do with them reply "Soon".
The MFA of the RF today openly and without excuses accused the junta of violating the Minsk agreements. So, overall, we continue to wait for that which is imminent.
Original article: (in Russian)
Looks like no peace for the civilians.
The prelude
The DPR: the Ukrainian security forces opened fire along the whole demarcation line in Donbass
The Ukrainian military violated the cease-fire regime along the whole demarcation line in Donbass, said the deputy defense minister of the Donetsk People's Republic Eduard Basurin. "For the first time (since the cease-fire was established) violations are noted along the whole demarcation line: Dokuchayevsk, Granitnoye, Logvinovo. The Ukrainian forces are concentrated most of all in the area of Donetsk and Mariupol, there is no such concentration in the north," - he said on Saturday.
Basurin emphasized that the Ukrainian security forces strengthened their group in the region. "On the southern direction the militants of the "Azov" battalion were equipped with a new battery, which uses the tactic of maneuverable military action, shells our areas, and then changes its location in order to not be seen by the OSCE," - said Basurin. "The Ukrainian military are reinforced by new weapons and also with personnel. Mostly these are conscripts, who were deceptively sent into Donbass . We also noted the additional equipping and relocation of vehicles, reinforcements, and mining of the objects," - he added.
(in Russian) - link
PS. I can add to this. Our humanitarian workers returned from the DPR today. Yesterday they were near the SBU building in Donetsk, artillery and "Grads" were actively engaged in the area of Peski and Avdeyevka, it could be heard in the center of the city. At Shirokino there's fighting going on non-stop for several days altogether, our forces had up to 50 KIA and WIA over the recent days (mostly WIA), the junta had about 70. The enemy artillery is very strongly engaged. Plus there is also information that the junta is deploying pontoons for crossing Seversky Donetsk and is pulling vehicles towards the supposed locations of crossing. Overall, to the question of "When?" almost all militia fighters and those who have to do with them reply "Soon".
The MFA of the RF today openly and without excuses accused the junta of violating the Minsk agreements. So, overall, we continue to wait for that which is imminent.
Original article: (in Russian)
I read in here the implication that Russia will pre-emptively deploy their own peacekeepers to the Donbass to enforce the autonomous zone of Donbass region from the rest of Ukraine.. I'd guess after the next outright failure of the Minsk 2 by a new Kiev offensive and the militia counter offensive to regain most of the original Donbass territory as they have recently promised.
And this is on the 15 Guards MR brigade as mentioned in the below section.
J.Hawk’s Comment:
In other possibly related news, the 33 Guards Mountain Motorized Rifle Brigade has changed its permanent garrison from Dagestan to the Rostov Region—which just happens to border the Donbass. These moves, along with the and other very recent military moves, suggest the Russian government is preparing for all possibilities or…it already knows what’s coming. Given the current state of the UAF, I very much doubt anything its generals or their civilian leadership conceives stays a secret for very long.
And this is on the 15 Guards MR brigade as mentioned in the below section.
J.Hawk’s Comment:
In other possibly related news, the 33 Guards Mountain Motorized Rifle Brigade has changed its permanent garrison from Dagestan to the Rostov Region—which just happens to border the Donbass. These moves, along with the and other very recent military moves, suggest the Russian government is preparing for all possibilities or…it already knows what’s coming. Given the current state of the UAF, I very much doubt anything its generals or their civilian leadership conceives stays a secret for very long.